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Rabbit Planter? - 5/10/2007 1:39:23 PM   
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I dug this up out of an old site that was closed for dumping back in 1908, not to say people didn't continue dumping. There are no marks of any kind or date. Just wondering how old? Thanks...Beebs




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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/10/2007 1:41:03 PM   
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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/10/2007 1:42:45 PM   
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Cute little thing...




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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/10/2007 1:45:41 PM   
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Anyone with any info? It's a heavy little thing. I dug this up about 16 yrs. ago or so.

Thanks to all who helped..
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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/10/2007 1:47:12 PM   
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Front (I think)....hee hee




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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/10/2007 9:40:19 PM   
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McCoy Pottery Company made planters similar to this in the early 1900s, I can not say for sure that this is one of them though. I have seen quite a variety of them over the years, being my Misses and I have collected Hull and McCoy for a good many years now. Started slacking off with all the reproductions that are filling the markets anymore.

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/11/2007 1:36:57 PM   
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Did Hull or McCoy mark their pottery? This has no marks on it that I can see. The only thing I can tell is that it's old & has a little bit of pit marks on the side that was laying in the ground. If you look at the first pic you can see some of the pitting. Thanks for your help.

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/11/2007 2:23:43 PM   
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Hull and McCoy did not mark planters such as yours, that is why they are hard to name unless you can find them in a Hull or McCoy book. I am sure other pottery companies made these types of planters as well. I will check my books to see if it might be in one of them.

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/11/2007 2:28:59 PM   
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quote:

Did Hull or McCoy mark their pottery?


they marked some of their pottery but i think most of it is unmarked...actually now that i think of it almost ALL McCoy is marked with some kind of mark some is only marked "USA" in a particular style and some is marked "McCoy" and some of their very EARLY pieces are marked with a NM together for "Nelson McCoy" i dont know of any Hull pottery that isnt marked

my dad collected hull and mccoy for a while so ive seen alot of it

he bought an unmarked McCoy vase for $1 that books for $175-$200

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/11/2007 4:20:17 PM   
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bottlenutboy,

Thanks a lot for the info, now I just wish I knew if in fact it is a Hull or McCoy. I guess the only way to know is to take it to someone who knows how to tell. I really need to invest in some books I suppose. Again I think you for taking the time to look at it.

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/11/2007 7:17:13 PM   
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Hello Beebs, I just went through my Hull and McCoy books page by page, and did not find your planter in it. I did find a rabbit planter in the Hull book, but it was of a different shape than yours. Of course that doesn't mean that it isn't one or the other. I believe the piece you have was made somewhere in the forties, or could co back as far as the thirties, that is just my guess. I have seen allot of these types of planters over the years, and there were probably other companies that made planters such as these.
I am thinking now that yours is not a Hull or McCoy planter, but made by some other company. Usually the Hull or McCoy planters such as yours are usually done in a matte or semi-gloss finish.
I am not well versed on the history of McCoy, although I have bought, sold and collected it for a good number of years, but the Hull Pottery Company, I know, made many styles of pottery for department stores such as Sears and other years ago. That line of pottery that Hull made for other companies were called for example Coronet, Fiesta, Fantasy, and a few others. Any time it made pottery for other store chains, the name Hull was never put on the pottery. Yes, it is made by Hull, but made for another company or store bearing a different name. I am amused at times that there always will be someone who will argue that a piece of pottery is not Hull or McCoy, because it may not carry their name. If you plan to collect a certain pottery, it is good to buy a book showing the off brands of their products as well as the pieces of pottery that are marked with the Hull or McCoy mark.
A word of caution, learn your pottery well, there are many reproduction being flooded into the market today because some individual or company had managed to buy up some of the original molds. Its a real heart breaker to pay a good lump sum of money for a piece of pottery you think is authentic, and to find out later it is a fake. The people that are making pottery from the original mold are not marking it as fact simily to make you aware that it is not the real thing, it looks just the same as the ones that were made by McCoy, Hull, or Roseville. The only difference will be, the colors, and the pieces of pottery will usually be a bit smaller, because the materials used for making them will shrink a bit more than materials used when the originals were being made. You can not see that difference in size just by looking at a piece,
The market is flooded with fake Roseville, thankfully the colors are off enough that a person that has done their homework can recognize it as being fake as it is. I know in the beginning though, that there was many people who got ripped off big time buying it and not knowing there was reproductions out there in the market place.
There are reproduction McCoy cookie jars out there, saw a Woman give eighty dollars for a repo Aunt Jamima cookie jar one evening at an auction, after I had informed her it was a fake before the auction. She more or less told me to mind my own business, so I walked away and let here think she knew it all as she thought she did. I am sure she was a sick Puppy later when she realized what she had actually bought. I bought a repo piece as well once, doesn't matter whether you are a man or a woman, if you do not know what you are buying, you can get stuck mighty easy. Again, LEARN ABOUT WHAT YOU INTEND OT COLLECT.
I have even seen one piece of Rookwood that was a repop. I can not believe there is not laws in affect that says a company who reproduces a product has to put right into the material that it is a repop, or par say a fact simily of the original. Hopefully, the law makers will wake up and do something about it to prevent this from happening.
   I have some of the Hull we have collected on my website. Most of it I am thinking about selling, being we have not the room to display it properly. Hope the info above will help you some, Lou

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/11/2007 8:46:49 PM   
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I collect pottery and agree with LC it  looks 1940's  lots of american potteries could have done this one. Mccoy did make unmarked pieces. Doesn't look Mccoy though.  

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/11/2007 11:28:23 PM   
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I thought it might have been McCoy Road Dog, till I finally got my head out of my backside and noticed it had a gloss finish. Still a cute planter regardless. My Misses has collected the Hull for around fifteen years or so. We have roughly 125 pieces of the matte and Hull Art pieces. Have quite a collection of the normal Hull and McCoy planters stacked on shelves out in the building. Since all the repo crap has started we have not bought a piece in quit a while. I started to post a picture of some of it we have and could not find what the devil I did with it.

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/12/2007 10:38:11 AM   
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Thank you all so much for the help. Lou I want to thank you for going so indepth with the info. I have not started collecting pottery, infact I have so many odds & ends that I have found throughtout the years I don't know where to start.
I have my grandmothers antique plate collection that I know I will never part with & some other things she gave me before she passed away 10 yrs. ago. If anyone can tell me about the "Hair Clip/Scarf Clip that I also have posted, that would be great, I have 35 hits & nothing.
As I said before, the rabbit I found in an old dump several yrs. ago. I too thinks it's a nice little planter, very different from those I have seen. I am heading out today for an old military dump, hoping I might find some treasures, I'll be sure to let you all know the outcome. Again THANKS everyone & Lou thank you for taking the time to look up the planter, I just can't thank you all enough.

Happy Digging,
Serena

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RE: Rabbit Planter? - 5/12/2007 3:05:53 PM   
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No problem Serena, sorry I was not able to tell you who made it.

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