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Recommend me an ACL book - 1/19/2012 7:29:10 PM   
TheCaliKid

 

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Status: offline 		I am looking for a good book on various ACL's and their values.

An emphasis on bottles from the far western and southwestern states would be a huge plus. 
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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/19/2012 8:54:02 PM   
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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/19/2012 9:48:40 PM   
TheCaliKid

 

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I went to the bookstore last night, and they didn't have anything at all.

Should I go to the library, or Amazon?

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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/19/2012 10:02:29 PM   
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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/19/2012 10:07:01 PM   
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You could  say, "If ya don't have one by now, you never will."

Let ol' Poison Mouth explain what I mean.

There only three books that I know of that deals only w/ acls. There is three editions of one said books..................it's the fourth edition that's the can of worms. The other two books SUCK.

Now from time to time you can get the ones that  really suck, but the good one, well like I said "If ya don't have ................................

There are a couple of state acl books I need mention. W. Va. has one and I belive it's N.H. & Vt. also.

Some miss. soda books have a few bottles thrown in too.

Then you can get product specific books.

or

Brand specific ones also.

................................................ but if ya want one for the Pacific North West ya need to get.

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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/19/2012 11:31:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi'ya Kid,

I don't own an ACL book, and it shows. I've heard members talk about several books, but they all seem to have some flaws of some sort or another. In no particular order, are a few places you might look: Rick Sweeney, a guy out yerway with a couple "editions" under his belt.

Allan Petretti has at least THREE EDITIONS to his credit. Reggie's got some suggestions.

Geeze, I zigged when I shoulda zagged, again...

From.




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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/19/2012 11:57:46 PM   
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You asked for a "good" book. I'm not sure any of my listings fits that "good" category.

Here's a guy with Seven Editions, not one of which I know the goodness factor.

Chris Weide and Dennis Fewless have One Book & 2 more coming soon. All, aparently first editions. Our own Dennis Smith / celerycola has a book or 2 up his sleeve:

From. Dennis, you might set these guys straight...

Have a look through the SHA's Reference Stack.





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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 12:50:01 AM   
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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 1:46:32 AM   
TheCaliKid

 

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Status: offline 		Thank for all the links and information guys.

Wow, I think that I have quickly come to the realization that a new ACL soda bottle book on collecting and values is desperately needed!


Why don't we members here produce our own E-book about the topic? I'd be willing to bet that there is more than enough brain power and knowledge between the lot of us.


We could have really nice clear and crisp photos too.......and it would be FREE! And, if you wanted a hardcopy, all you would have to do is print it off from home. Let's get a research team started up.....we'd have to compile data from these older books, plus what has changed since then. Certain members could pick a certain topic to cover. This could be a multi-year project, and we would keep refining it and making it better. And then, maybe some year, actually publish it if there is enough interest.



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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 1:50:47 AM   
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quote:

Unfortunately, like Pat said, it's near impossible to get anymore.


Hey Matt,

Is that how this translates?

quote:

Let ol' Poison Mouth explain what I mean.

There only three books that I know of that deals only w/ acls. There is three editions of one said books..................it's the fourth edition that's the can of worms. The other two books SUCK.




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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 8:09:43 AM   
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Regarding that big bucket of worms . . .

I don't own the coveted acl books. If the Painted Label Collectors okayed it I would assist with scanning someone's copies and creating pdf's (readable on a computer) and as epub files (readable on a Nook, Kindle, iPad, etc.).

If the club gets reorganized the books could be distributed on a cd as a benefit of membership. Cost per member would be pennies. Print copies could be sold through Cafe Press which requires no money up front. People would buy copies on the Cafe Press web site and they would print and ship the books to the purchaser then send a monthly check to the club. That takes the burden off volunteers handling everything.

If the files for #4 are available I could help getting that one together.

Dennis

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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 8:10:36 AM   
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This one's not perfect and not exhaustive by any means, but it's probably the one you want. Unfortunately, like Pat said, it's near impossible to get anymore.




(I'm referring to the post by mgardziella)



This is the best, but as Pat has said, the 4th edition has caused quite a stir among us ACL collectors. Mine is worn to pieces but I still occasionally use it for reference. It is mostly a catalogue of acl pics with a list of what prices have been paid for examples in the past, but I stopped referring to that years ago. It is a good resource especially if you need to see a pic of what a particular bottle looks like. It does have some other useful info so I would recommend picking one up if possible- if you can find it.

As for the "stir" spend some time trying to search in the Soda section of this forum to see what we are talking about.

And even though prices can go crazy sometimes (in both directions) Ebay is still the best place to see what ACLs are out there across the world

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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 9:41:53 AM   
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Hey Matt,

Is that how this translates?


No, that translates to "there are three editions of the book, but the first two suck. There was supposed to be a fourth one coming out, and some people even put money down, but it never happened and that's why it's a can of worms."
My translation was coming from "if you don't have one now you probably never will."

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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 6:24:16 PM   
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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 6:27:25 PM   
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"Regarding the new book. Many have prepaid for it and if circumstances hadn't happened the way they did, it would have been printed ages ago. Currently, the photos have been lost, along with their information. IF they are retrieved, we can proceed as planned and get the book out soon. Otherwise, I will have to re-request them and begin over. Let's hope they can be retrieved. The rest of the book is ready. K"


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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/20/2012 9:29:37 PM   
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Karen


Kathy


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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/21/2012 12:43:42 PM   
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I had the pleasure of meeting Rick Sweeney about four years ago at his home here in the San Diego area. He was kind enough to share with me his amazing collection of acls that totaled about 400 bottles at the time, and were nicely displayed from floor to ceiling in one room. I also got two copies of his book, one of which he signed for me. He said during my visit for me to "drop by anytime." Which I never did and not sure he still lives at the same address. But I do recall he had at least one and possibly several "boxes" of his Third Edition book. I believe I still have his phone number. If so, I will give him a call one of these days (soon) and see what the status might be regarding the books. But please allow me a ittle time to work on this. I will report back here just as soon as I find out whether he still lives in San Diego or not. By the way, I heard through the grapevine that he sold his entire collection of acls, but have not been able to confirm it as yet.

I'll be back.

Bob

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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/21/2012 1:16:50 PM   
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I forgot to mention that during my visit to Rick Sweeney's home he literally "gave" me the bottle pictured below. In fact, he had a whole bunch of duplicates and told me to take any one I wanted. And when I selected the "Lockhart," he said I got the best one of the lot, which I didn't even realize at the time until he mentioned it. He was/is a very generous guy, and I will always treasure both the bottle and the book he gave me on that most memorable day back in 2007.

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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/21/2012 1:21:16 PM   
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RE: Recommend me an ACL book - 1/21/2012 2:22:02 PM   
SODAPOPBOB

 

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I just spoke with Rick's wife on the phone. She is going to have Rick call me. But not sure when that will be. All I know for sure is that he still has back copies of his book(s). But whether they are available for sale or not, I don't know. I will report back here just as soon as I've had the opportunity to speak with Rick personally.

Later.

Bob

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