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Reformatory milk bottle - 8/11/2008 9:35:56 AM    E   Posts: 171 Joined: 5/9/2008 Status: offline All, My bro just found an embossed pint "Petersburg Federal Reformatory Dairy" bottle in mint condition.  He was instantly offered $200 for it by a shrewd local collector.  I told him hold on till I could message out on the forum regarding the market for such bottles. I am guessing that such prison bottles are scarce, and am thinking this one must be extremely rare based on the interest expressed by the seasoned collector, anybody got a clue on the value of the item? Thanx in advance, E Post #: 1

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/11/2008 9:35:12 PM    appliedlips Posts: 1681 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline        I would advise him not to sell it in a hurry.If it is that rare it's a safe bet that the possible buyer is going to find another any time soon.He may get double that,who knows? < Message edited by appliedlips -- 8/11/2008 9:36:12 PM > _____________________________ I WOULD LIKE TO BUY OR TRADE FOR YOUR COLORED,AND OR EMBOSSED CATHEDRAL PEPPERSAUCE BOTTLES.I AM ALSO LOOKING FOR EMBOSSED MIDWESTERN ALES IN ANY COLOR. (in reply to E) Post #: 2

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/11/2008 11:50:29 PM    Flaschenjager Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/21/2002 From: Central Virginia - USA Status: offline Hi Mike - It may not mean much, but it isn't listed on my Sept. 2003 VA milk listing, which is usually good news. I don't pay a lot of attention to our local milks like I should, but VA milks are quite pricey for some. Is it embossed in a slug area? Just guessing, I would at least triple that offer. It isn't out of the question, cause it sounds like a good one. I can't give you a definate number though. Doug has great advice... Hold onto it as long as you can and keep asking around. _____________________________ 'Meech' Our websites: http://mysite.verizon.net/flaschenjager/bottles.html Member of FOHBC - RABCA - APBCA Editor of 'The Digger' in full color! Please support the forums with a donation or purchase! (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 3

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/12/2008 7:42:52 AM    E   Posts: 171 Joined: 5/9/2008 Status: offline I try to reason with him, but when somebody waves cash at him he melts - this is the same guy who sold an open pontil Richmond "Purcell Laboratory" and a very old Farmville "Jackson & Sons" liquor flask (never seen/heard of another one) together for $100.  I coulda killed him, makes me even madder when I recall that I waded right past both bottles on same stretch of a creek we were working and he picked 'em up side-by-side. Maybe I should offer him $201 for it?  (being smug here). (in reply to Flaschenjager) Post #: 4

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/13/2008 3:41:55 PM    E   Posts: 171 Joined: 5/9/2008 Status: offline Meech, I sent you an e-mail regarding the fate of this bottle, unfortunately my brother needs cash and wants to sell it in near future.  I got a line on where he dug the bottle and likely will hit the dump with him in a couple of weeks - sure would be nice to find one for my own collection. Thanx, E (in reply to E) Post #: 5

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/14/2008 12:32:52 PM    Flaschenjager Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/21/2002 From: Central Virginia - USA Status: offline quote: this is the same guy who sold an open pontil Richmond "Purcell Laboratory" and a very old Farmville "Jackson & Sons" liquor flask (never seen/heard of another one) together for $100. Hey E - Without looking at my books, that Purcell is probably one of two known. Not that there isn't more, just reported. I've never heard of that Farmville flask. Wish I was on the bottle recieving end of that deal or should I say crazy deal. I'll help you find another milk like that.  I'll send you a reply email in a bit.   _____________________________ 'Meech' Our websites: http://mysite.verizon.net/flaschenjager/bottles.html Member of FOHBC - RABCA - APBCA Editor of 'The Digger' in full color! Please support the forums with a donation or purchase! (in reply to E) Post #: 6

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/14/2008 1:44:23 PM    E   Posts: 171 Joined: 5/9/2008 Status: offline Meech, This Purcell was different than the cylindrical version (think there are two specimens known of that one):  this was a very crude rectangular version about 8" tall with a sweet tulip blob and very rough pontil.  I have never seen reference to another one.  It truely was a "dream bottle"- I was shocked/sickened when he told me he had sold it for next to nothing. I do know who conned him out of it - a local bottle collecting lady who is big into milk bottles, likely you know her.  She also got the Jackson flask:  I'll bet you even money that she turned around and traded them away for milk bottles (oh the pain...).  I'll e-mail her contact info to ya if you want to follow up on either bottle. (in reply to Flaschenjager) Post #: 7

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/14/2008 2:31:09 PM    Flaschenjager Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/21/2002 From: Central Virginia - USA Status: offline I have a good idea, I mean great idea, who it was that got those. I haven't seen or heard of either bottle being offered around here.  They call those private dealings.   I emailed you with a book of my thoughts. _____________________________ 'Meech' Our websites: http://mysite.verizon.net/flaschenjager/bottles.html Member of FOHBC - RABCA - APBCA Editor of 'The Digger' in full color! Please support the forums with a donation or purchase! (in reply to E) Post #: 8

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/14/2008 2:40:17 PM    Flaschenjager Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/21/2002 From: Central Virginia - USA Status: offline E - I'm off to check my books on the Purcell. Do you have one of the few Richmond books... the newer ones? If not, you'll just drool. Full color, thick, hardback, loaded w/ stuff you never see, but may dig in a good pit, history for all known companies with dates, and some prices are listed in these books. The Richmond books are by far the best local books out there. A must have for the local digger/collector/dealer/lover of glass. PS - I don't think they are still available. I'd have to check. _____________________________ 'Meech' Our websites: http://mysite.verizon.net/flaschenjager/bottles.html Member of FOHBC - RABCA - APBCA Editor of 'The Digger' in full color! Please support the forums with a donation or purchase! (in reply to Flaschenjager) Post #: 9

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/15/2008 8:24:51 AM    E   Posts: 171 Joined: 5/9/2008 Status: offline I have no book of any kind, does this guide include Petersburg bottles? (in reply to Flaschenjager) Post #: 10

RE: Reformatory milk bottle - 8/15/2008 12:18:01 PM    Flaschenjager Posts: 1136 Joined: 12/21/2002 From: Central Virginia - USA Status: offline Hey E - There is a seperate book for Petersburg bottles by the same author. It's also a hardback, in color and so on. Looking last night, this milk isn't in there either (a good thing). There are several OP variations of the Purcell Ladd & Co. shown in my books. It's kinda hard to narrow down which one you are refering, but they are all good bottles if scarred. _____________________________ 'Meech' Our websites: http://mysite.verizon.net/flaschenjager/bottles.html Member of FOHBC - RABCA - APBCA Editor of 'The Digger' in full color! Please support the forums with a donation or purchase! (in reply to E) Post #: 11

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