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Reproductions: Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 7:20:27 AM    digdug Posts: 592 Joined: 11/4/2004 From: Atlanta Status: offline I saw that Coca-Cola is bringing out a repro Hutchinson bottle for Christmas 2007.  It actually has a crown cap and not a stopper. I know when Coca-Cola has done repro of the Christmas Coke bottle it has caused confusion with collectors and non-collectors. Do you think the repro makes a non-collector take notice, ask questions and becomes interested in collecting?  OR does it cause too much confusion among non-collectors and collectors?     The repro Hutch will be sold in grocery stores soon. Attachment (1) < Message edited by digdug -- 11/9/2007 7:54:49 AM > Post #: 1

RE: Reproductions:Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 7:23:36 AM    digdug Posts: 592 Joined: 11/4/2004 From: Atlanta Status: offline I am not sure what is embossed on them. Hadn't found any yet.  Here is a photo of one, but can't tell any detail. Attachment (1) (in reply to digdug) Post #: 2

RE: Reproductions:Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 7:33:18 AM    CrewelaDeVil   Posts: 309 Joined: 8/31/2005 From: New England Status: offline Personally, I don't like repros. Do I think they hurt the hobby? Maybe not the hobby itself but it does hurt newcomers to the hobby IMO.  But I also think they teach lessons. I know, I learned once lol (in reply to digdug) Post #: 3

RE: Reproductions:Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 10:09:20 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 4486 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Repros are fine as long as they are well marked as such. Unfortunatly many arent. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to CrewelaDeVil) Post #: 4

RE: Reproductions:Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 4:53:26 PM    bigghouse Posts: 800 Joined: 7/15/2007 From: Essex MASS Status: offline i hate repros- but i guess if everything was perfect then there would be no fun             i dont no bout this though why would syrup b in a cocal repo huch? http://cgi.ebay.com/HUTCH-STYLE-EMBOSSED-COCA-COLA-REPRO-BOTTLE_W0QQitemZ6279951284QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1350QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem _____________________________ =] (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 5

RE: Reproductions:Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 5:03:28 PM    digdug Posts: 592 Joined: 11/4/2004 From: Atlanta Status: offline Coca-Cola put cola in the repro hutch bottles to increase sales.  Every ounce they sell adds up to $$$ for them.   I am going to go to the grocery store this weekend and try to find some of those hutch bottles.  Some are already on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/Coca-Cola-2007-Christmas-Holiday-6-Pack-Bottles-Rare_W0QQitemZ230190151851QQihZ013QQcategoryZ13603QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem < Message edited by digdug -- 11/9/2007 5:04:21 PM > (in reply to bigghouse) Post #: 6

RE: Reproductions: Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 6:41:32 PM    beendiggin   Posts: 451 Joined: 6/30/2005 Status: offline To me, repros are like avon bottles. If you like them you can have a nice collection others can enjoy ,without spending a fortune, so it's fine. Not all bottle collectors are interested in the oldest, or rarity, or even history, so some may be thrilled with newer glass, plus some repros are actually getting pretty old now. The thing is, there are so many original old bottles to collect, and you can't dig repros. I agree that repros are confusing in many cases, but that's part of the antique/collectible market that we all have to learn about, and teach  about. _____________________________ Paul I will dig a cobalt skull. (in reply to digdug) Post #: 7

RE: Reproductions: Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 9:08:13 PM    morbious_fod   Posts: 521 Joined: 3/4/2007 From: The backwoods of the backwoods, Virginia Status: offline I don't think that most repros harm the hobby. The majority that I have dealt with didn't fool me for a minute, except one. That heavy glass christmas coke they came out with in the late 1980's. When I first started I grabbed one of these thinking it was legit only to find out during my research that it wasn't. I hadn't paid a great deal for it so I wasn't that bothered and the bottle remains in my collection today. Let's face it you don't see these in the wild everyday. As for the new hutchs, I'll buy a six pack if I find them. I kinda like a well made repro. Take the Pepsi evolution repros from a few years ago. Those aren't bad and I wound up with a set of them full just for kicks. (in reply to beendiggin) Post #: 8

RE: Reproductions: Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/9/2007 9:30:50 PM    jagee44   Posts: 281 Joined: 8/14/2007 From: North Carolina Status: offline Repros hurt the hobby.  Those who get started in it may make a mistake and think they are getting a great deal.  It's happened to me before. (in reply to morbious_fod) Post #: 9

RE: Reproductions: Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/10/2007 5:58:46 AM    RICKJJ59W Posts: 2976 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: Lehigh Valley US of A Status: offline There are re pros every where, not just in the bottle world. take  people for instance, there are many fakes out there. you just take them or leave them. _____________________________ One day at a time. Blogs.Bottle story's I wrote for AB&GC New story added. http://www.myspace.com/bottlediggerr Digs in action. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitpirate/ (in reply to jagee44) Post #: 10

RE: Reproductions: Help or Hurt the hobby? - 11/10/2007 8:27:59 AM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2134 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline They help me sometimes. Some bottles I know I'll never have the real thing but a nicely done Clev works fine as a representation and it can be affordable. I wish the early Clevs hadn't gained such popularity, that might be the BOOZ I'd chooz. They're usually up over $100 now. They're also antiques now. _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to RICKJJ59W) Post #: 11

RE: Reproductions: Help or Hurt the hobby? - 3/16/2008 1:01:48 PM    bottleboy311 Posts: 173 Joined: 11/22/2005 From: Central Florida Status: offline With any hobby the idea is to get more people interested in the hobby. If more people are collecting the items, those items become more valuable. (Old Economic Supply and Demand Therory.) However, when new collectors see an item, with a book value of $200.00, selling for $75.00, they think the are getting a great deal, so they buy it up. But they do not know it is a repro. When they find out 3 months later that it was a repro, only worth $9.95, sometimes they get turned off and stop collecting. And this loss means less demand for the old items.  Furthermore, if the market is flooded with repros, it does do something to the value the original. If someone wants a certain bottle or jar, valued a $200.00, but now can get a knock-off for $10.00 to $15.00, they may not spend that kind of money for the real thing.  In these ways I think repros hurt the hobby. < Message edited by bottleboy311 -- 3/16/2008 1:04:23 PM > _____________________________ I was feeling sorry for myself because I had no shoes. Than I met a man who had no feet. So I said, .............. "Freind, can I have your shoes?" (in reply to digdug) Post #: 12

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