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River bottles - 2/7/2006 6:29:23 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Hello everybody, Saturday I found some more bottles in Thames. It took me a while to clean them and even now they have a lot of staines but this guy who invented the bottle didn't think about us, how dificult will be to clean the inside. If I only put my hands on him... Any information regarding the age, producers, location, will be more than welcome. They are mainly milk bottles but a Coca Cola one with the following embossing (twice) Coca-Cola TRADE MARK REGISTERED On the base is "57 F 62". As far as I found on Internet this bottle could be either from 1957 or from 1962, but I not sure. I'm sorry I cannot say much about size as the imperial measures are totaly strange for me, but is about 0.25litres Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top Post #: 1

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 6:43:38 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline The next one is a milk bottle embossed "Golden Seal" with a star above that looks like David's Star and with "CONTENTS 1 PT" under. On the back is : "THIS BOTTLE COSTS 4d PLEASE RINSE AND RETURN" On the heel is "Z270" in front and "HUGB33" in the back. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 2

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 6:47:56 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Next is a 1 pint milk bottle embossed "United Dairies". On the heel is "R 87 Y". Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 3

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 6:53:57 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Next is a United Dairies milk bottle but with a diffrent design. "UNITED DAIRIES" in front and "CONTENTS 1 PT" IN BACK. On heel is "Z506" in front and "CUGB 25 R" in the back. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 4

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 6:58:09 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Next is an 1 pint milk bottle from Express. On base is: V 381 C C 47 UGB Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 5

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 7:04:42 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline The last milk bottle is from London Co-op Society Limited. with the full embossing in front and only the LCS logo on the back. On base is W W 42/1 8 A Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 6

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 7:16:02 PM    madpaddla Posts: 2765 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: offline Mihai: Great finds and pics. They cleaned well. Nice post before about metal detectors. About your bottles. The coke is common I believe. If it was from the WWII period it would be worth more. The milks: The Golden Seal one is the oldest. But each is determined by dairy/collectability etc. The others are more knowledgable but thats what I got. Keep up the great posts. I'm a river finder also: Uses a kayak. Madpaddla _____________________________ It pays to look down. Ebay stuff http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspliffybigfeetQQhtZ-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ckIv1tiaU&feature=related (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 7

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 7:32:14 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Hi Madpaddla, Thank you for encouragement. I can see that you have a pretty good idea about the bottles. Could you please tell me roughly how old they are? The value is irrelevant as I don't want to sell them. It could be nice to value a bit thou. About the metal detector I can say that, against all advices, I bought on eBay a cheap one which is still to come. I'm not in my best financial situation as I bougtht my house just three months ago. But I consider this one as the backup detector and I'll buy the main one later. Is a bit like putting the carriage ahead of horses but I think is OK. _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 8

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 7:42:02 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Madpaddla, how do you search for bottles from a kayak. Do you use a fishing net? And isn't this kind of boat a bit unstable? Looking for bottles and clay pipes I saw two girls overturning in one. Or was it a canoe? I don't know. < Message edited by Mihai -- 2/8/2006 12:43:06 AM > _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 9

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 7:44:41 PM    madpaddla Posts: 2765 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: offline Mihai: Not knowing much about UK bottles here are some suggestions 1. Ebay: Search it all over. Pick apart the information. Some are lies some are real facts. 2. Use this search engine. It searches Google, Yahoo, Msn, Ask Jeeves and more. I strongly suggest this site to all. No spam etc. One of the tricks my girlfriend taught me, Thank Sara. http://www.metacrawler.com/info.metac/ 3. Good to local antique stores. Buy up good books. I asked for an amazon gift and bought 5 books for $50. 4. Keep digging/wadding/diving/raking/ and all else glass. Take care. Your milks are nice and once you get duplicates, save the best. Madpaddla < Message edited by madpaddla -- 2/7/2006 7:51:31 PM > _____________________________ It pays to look down. Ebay stuff http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspliffybigfeetQQhtZ-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ckIv1tiaU&feature=related (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 10

RE: River bottles - 2/7/2006 7:50:57 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Madpaddla Thank you for advice. I'll keep them in mind. But how do you clean the stains? I used Cif this time, works very well on exterior but not much help inside. _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 11

RE: River bottles - 2/8/2006 1:19:53 AM    capsoda Posts: 7869 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Mahai, Nice finds. Don't know much about English bottles and exports but those look like good ones. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 12

RE: River bottles - 2/20/2006 3:15:01 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Hi, I draged again the Thames yesterday and here are a few of my finds. There are 10 bottles but I'll post only some, no point to put the pictures of the same kind or of ones similar with what I post previously. Please feel free to come with any info about them. It will be highly appreciated. I apologize for the marks, I wasn't able to clean them properly yet. First picture is for a couple of milk bottles embossed with LWD ltd, 1 pint and 1/2 pint. I found three of the small one. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 13

RE: River bottles - 2/20/2006 3:18:17 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Next is a half pint from London Co-op Society ltd. I've found a 1 pint bottle from the same company before and this looks just nice besides it. Shame is a bit cloudy. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 14

RE: River bottles - 2/20/2006 3:23:24 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Next one is the most embossed found yesterday. Is a half pint from the Rees Price diary and it says where about the milk was delivered: Hammersmith, Shepards Bush, Ealing and Southall. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 15

RE: River bottles - 2/20/2006 3:36:23 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline The last thing (bottle seams to be a bit unfair to call it) is about 130mm high and 60mm wide and I have no idea what could have been used for. I guess is for cream but I'm not sure. No embossing except for a "68" on heel on one side and a funny thing, for which I'll put another picture, on the other side. Ther is also a star on the base. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 16

RE: River bottles - 2/20/2006 3:39:10 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline Close up of the marks on the heel. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 17

RE: River bottles - 2/20/2006 3:44:05 PM    Mihai   Posts: 276 Joined: 1/3/2006 Status: offline And this is the base. Please tell me what it is or I have another white night in front of me. Thank you for watching. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Mihai This whole worlds wild at heart and wierd on top (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 18

RE: River bottles - 2/20/2006 4:41:04 PM    capsoda Posts: 7869 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Nice looking milk bottles Mihai. Thats a neat little whatcha callit too. Some of the milk bottles look really old. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 19

RE: River bottles - 2/22/2006 8:17:33 PM    CanadianBoy   Posts: 657 Joined: 7/25/2004 Status: offline Hey Mihai , as Ben can tell you,hunting from a kayak is a great way to find dumps.Not under the water but along the edges of rivers,streams and lakes. People who live along rivers and streams throw there rubbish there,so we just drift along keeping our eye's peeled for that hint of glass. A small boat would work about the same,course with a kayak you can get in much closer. There as to be some really ancient tips along that river.I think the Thames as being used as a road for at least 2000 years.Good Luck and keep us posted,Dave. I was born and lived in Yorkshire til I was 14. _____________________________ So many Dumps,so little time. So get DIGGING. I've been "DOWN IN THE DUMPS" since 1970. Never dug a dump, I didn't like. "May you all Dig well and Prosper" http://www.nexicom.net/~djackson/ Dave J. Ontario,Canada. (in reply to Mihai) Post #: 20

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