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Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/13/2010 12:22:01 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online This is the most unique American made Robert Turlington bottle I have ever seen. I believe this bottle to have been made between 1800 and 1815.I also believe it  is a product of the Glassboro New Jersey  Heston and Carpenter or just Ed Carpenter's Olive glass works as it matches in color with other known products from that factory. The color of the bottle is green with a little aqua .The bottle has some neat striations in  the glass along with thin streaks of  coloring in the neck and lip area that is very aqua. There is a rough pontil and the lettering is barley discernable as it is washed away into the glass. It is however the length of the neck on the bottle that makes it unique.I have never seen another  with a length of  neck this long.I know the early original  British versions are clear and more  rounded and quite neat looking also.Some time ago a member here at the forum posted a British version he had found from the late 1700s Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen Post #: 1

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/13/2010 12:22:43 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online Picture number two. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 2

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/13/2010 12:23:20 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online Picture number 3. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 3

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/13/2010 12:24:06 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online Picture number 4 of the pontil. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 4

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/13/2010 12:25:33 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online Picture number 5.In this picture you can see the aqua thin streaks of color in the lip and neck of the bottle. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 5

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 8:27:00 AM    JustGlass   Posts: 1149 Joined: 7/22/2005 Status: offline Wow that is a wicked old Turlingtons. That long neck is awesome. Here's one that I have do you have a guess at what time period this one is? Attachment (1) (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 6

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 11:18:54 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online Hi justglass,Your Turlington botle is very old and American made also.If I were to guess I would say 1805 to 1825.By 1835 the rolled lip was being used more on a lot of old medicines and the Turlington balsam bottles were no exception.I have a few bottles similar to yours that I have always felt were as old as the bottle I posted here. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to JustGlass) Post #: 7

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 11:19:43 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online Picture number 2 Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 8

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 11:38:58 AM    RedGinger Posts: 6542 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline Very nice Turlington's.  It's a great bottle with a great history.  Thanks for sharing your pictures.  It's cool to see all the different examples. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVTdY2BI3g (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 9

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 11:44:39 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online This last group picture shows what I beleive is my oldest Turlington bottle.Robert Turlington's Balsam was the most widely used medicine of the colonial time period here in Philadelphia.It was inevitable that it would be copied and sold locally.Something to remember is we as a nation had stopped trading with Great Britain from 1776 to 1795.In 1795 the Jay treaty opened up trade with Great Britain once more.It is the period 1775 to 1795 that I beleive a lot of glassware was made in our colonial glass houses. In South Jersey the Stangers,the Heston Carpenter works,and Leesburgh,on into Pennsylvania, Kennsington and Stiegels Manheim works,on into Maryland, Kramers and Amelungs and Federal Hill,into Western Pa.Ohara,New Geneva, to New York Dowesburgh,and on into New England Pitkin,Temple,New Haven ect..All of this glass just needs to be found now. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 10

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 11:54:39 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online I owe you one of these Red.I will get it to you I promise.  _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 11

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 12:12:45 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online Another way to tell older Turlington bottles from their slighty newer counter parts are the round contours in the shoulders of the bottles. The next generation still sporting the flared lip had squared shoulders in comparison.These evolved into the next generation of rounded lips. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 12

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 12:50:08 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online I may be missing some bottles in time periods that may straddle these but this is fairly accurate.From left to right the evolution of the Turlington bottles in a Darwinian graph. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 13

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 1:08:30 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online I added some text to the picture of pontil types.  Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 14

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 1:19:27 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 11901 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online Another TOP NOTCH post, Steve!!!!  (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 15

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 4:19:28 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online The new and improved timeline map of the Robert Turlington bottle including the original from Great Britain. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 8/16/2010 4:21:55 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 16

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 4:28:13 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 3622 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: online I wish I had the bottle all the way to the left.Do any of our British members have one or know where one is available. I guess I should post this portion in the wanted section. _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 17

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 4:48:56 PM    baltbottles   Posts: 2201 Joined: 11/25/2002 From: Baltimore Maryland Status: offline Steve, There is also an earlier type that is rectangular used before the 1754 type. I have seen  pictures of a couple of them on the British forum. And quite a few later English flint glass ones. That date 1760s-1800. I saw one that was about twice the size of a normal Turlingtons with a 1770s patent date in flint glass few years ago at a show in Pa. Heres an early Flint glass example thta I dug in Philadelphia from a late 18th century privy. Chris Attachment (1) _____________________________ Please visit my website Antique Bottles Of Baltimore at : www.baltimorebottles.com Looking to buy Pontiled Baltimore bottles of all types Email me at baltimorebottles@gmail.com (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 18

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/16/2010 6:50:39 PM    Poison_Us   Posts: 2801 Joined: 5/27/2009 From: Savannah, Ga. Status: offline As always, another great post of info by you.  Thank you.  I have always wondered about these, I have seen them at every show we have been to.  I knew they were old, but just wasn't our thing. _____________________________ Poison Us Member: APBCA ( www.poisonbottleclub.org ) Visit Us @: www.poisonousaddiction.com Looking for digging partners in/near Savannah. Be a friend. Give the "GIFT" of Poison. (in reply to baltbottles) Post #: 19

RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 8/18/2010 7:31:13 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2598 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: offline Here is a flint glass one. It is rounded shoulders with a glass chip pontil. This one is 2 1/16" tall. < Message edited by Road Dog -- 8/18/2010 7:32:06 PM > (in reply to Poison_Us) Post #: 20

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