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Selenium in Bottles - 7/14/2011 8:42:23 PM    RedGinger Posts: 6727 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline Here's a bottle the generous Mainer1 sent awhile back.  I've had it in sunlight and it was originally clear.  Joe said it is probably selenium-coloured (this is an English forum, so I'll spell it that way)   I really like the almost straw color it has taken on.  I'd like to see some other bottles if anyone has some that have turned. Attachment (1) _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVTdY2BI3g Post #: 1

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/19/2011 4:50:53 PM    the ham man   Posts: 516 Joined: 11/14/2009 From: Ellicott City, MD Status: offline Awesome color on that one. I wonder why it turned yellow instead of that purplish sca color. _____________________________ Lookin' for ' ' ________________ Ellicott City /_______________ /l bottles and l` John U.O'Brien` 'l----/\ ' Baltimore ' lWines Liquors & C.l----\/ ~Joey~ ' whiskeys ' l_Ellicott City,MD._ l/ (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 2

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/19/2011 4:58:15 PM    RedGinger Posts: 6727 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline Maybe it's not as new as the SCA bottles.  It's certainly not ABM.  I don't know.  I really like the color too.  Thanks. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVTdY2BI3g (in reply to the ham man) Post #: 3

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/19/2011 5:13:39 PM    epackage Posts: 9911 Joined: 5/3/2009 From: Jersey Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: the ham man Awesome color on that one. I wonder why it turned yellow instead of that purplish sca color. Because manganese turns bottles purple and a different chemical in the glass will turn it a straw/brown color..all depends on the chemical makeup of the glass... http://1st-glass.1st-things.com/articles/glasscolouring.html < Message edited by epackage -- 7/19/2011 5:15:19 PM > _____________________________ I WANT PATERSON NJ BOTTLES !! Being NICE for the SAKE of OTHERS !!! (in reply to the ham man) Post #: 4

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/19/2011 5:57:15 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Selenium was used as a decolorizer during WWI when manganese was unavailable. Selenium was much more expensive to use so right after the war they went back to manganese. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to epackage) Post #: 5

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/19/2011 8:21:05 PM    the ham man   Posts: 516 Joined: 11/14/2009 From: Ellicott City, MD Status: offline Very interesting. Thanks Matt. Joey _____________________________ Lookin' for ' ' ________________ Ellicott City /_______________ /l bottles and l` John U.O'Brien` 'l----/\ ' Baltimore ' lWines Liquors & C.l----\/ ~Joey~ ' whiskeys ' l_Ellicott City,MD._ l/ (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 6

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/19/2011 8:26:54 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 6472 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Eastern Northwest West Central area of Mass Status: offline quote: I've had it in sunlight and it was originally clear. How long? _____________________________ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Eric (in reply to the ham man) Post #: 7

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/20/2011 12:30:18 AM    RedGinger Posts: 6727 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline Oh, a year maybe?  No longer than that. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVTdY2BI3g (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 8

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/20/2011 2:21:59 AM    cordilleran   Posts: 760 Joined: 2/13/2008 From: Washington Status: offline Manganese is still used to de-color glass as it has been since selenium was no longer used following the Great War. Not. Fact is, selenium was used in bottle manufacture following the exhaustion of manganese stores (1918- maybe 1919?) until about 1930. Selenite (the common source of selenium) is a frequently mined mineral in arid regions. _____________________________ A life unchallenged is a life unlived. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 9

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/20/2011 5:05:51 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline From the Journal of Industrial and Engineering Chemistry 1920. Attachment (1) _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to cordilleran) Post #: 10

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/20/2011 5:15:20 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Manganese was eventually phased out in favor of materials like selenium but my point was there are bottles made after WWI that will turn purple. I read many articles that state manganese glass ended with WWI which I dont think is true. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 7/20/2011 5:17:25 AM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 11

RE: Selenium in Bottles - 7/20/2011 7:57:00 PM    glass man Posts: 7746 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: offline WOW !After all these years I have heard bottles made 1915 and after will not turn purple...oh well!JAMIE < Message edited by glass man -- 7/20/2011 7:58:08 PM > _____________________________ LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED ! IF YOU NEED A BLESSING OR A SONG THAT WILL PICK YOU UP PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS SONG FROM"VAN THE MAN"MORRISON! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi4R2YXv_AE (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 12

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