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Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 11:02:34 AM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline Found this arrowhead /  projectile point yesteday on a sandbar while looking for bottles.  At first I thought it was a fossilized shark tooth, but when I got home I noticed it was "chipped" into its current shape.  Any good links for helping to id this to a certain tribe or what it is called?  Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 11:04:16 AM    AntiqueMeds   Posts: 2034 Joined: 3/6/2009 From: Frederick, MD. Status: offline looks like it might be a small drill rather than a projectile point _____________________________ My web site - http://www.AntiqueMedicines.com/ Medicine BLOG : http://antiquemedicines.com/blog/ Email me : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 2

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 11:10:58 AM    surfaceone Posts: 7141 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Hey AMCS, Could'ya take some more photos, please? Is it obsidian? It looks to me like an awl. What tribes used the sandbar? " Indian Points - Knife - Awl" From. " Fossilized Shoulder Blade Hoe - Awl" From. (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 3

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 11:19:55 AM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline Im at work right now so I can't get you any pics until I get home this afternoon.  I dont know what absiden is nor how to id it, so I'll hit google here in a minute and try to get a bit smarter on that.  I thought maybe a drill as well, but its tiny.  This area of VA had several tribes, Powhatan, Kecoughtan and others, but specifically where this spot is I dont know. (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 4

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 11:21:28 AM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline Sorry, I forgot to hit spellcheck.  Obsidian. (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 5

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 11:27:35 AM    AntiqueMeds   Posts: 2034 Joined: 3/6/2009 From: Frederick, MD. Status: offline its not always possible to associate prehistoric items with historic cultures. drills can be fairly small. It may have been longer originally and worn down. I have never found one that small. I see a few on this site. http://sracenter.blogspot.com/2009/11/srac-stone-drills-101.html < Message edited by AntiqueMeds -- 2/6/2012 11:31:31 AM > _____________________________ My web site - http://www.AntiqueMedicines.com/ Medicine BLOG : http://antiquemedicines.com/blog/ Email me : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 6

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 11:48:14 AM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline The size of it is intrigueing.    It does not appear that it was worn down, rather it seems to be made to that size.  (in reply to AntiqueMeds) Post #: 7

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 11:53:50 AM    AntiqueMeds   Posts: 2034 Joined: 3/6/2009 From: Frederick, MD. Status: offline sometimes it hard to tell since items were often re-worked as they were worn/broken. it could also be a small bird/fish point or an awl like surf mentioned. Not always easy to judge from a photo. _____________________________ My web site - http://www.AntiqueMedicines.com/ Medicine BLOG : http://antiquemedicines.com/blog/ Email me : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 8

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 12:04:00 PM    Dugout   Posts: 1734 Joined: 1/27/2008 Status: offline It is a drill or an awl,  Not an arrowhead! And a beauty at that! < Message edited by Dugout -- 2/6/2012 12:05:23 PM > (in reply to AntiqueMeds) Post #: 9

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 12:27:31 PM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline So is finding something like this one of those instances where if there is one there should be more?   Or are finding these types of things far and few between, kinda like hitting the lotto.   (in reply to Dugout) Post #: 10

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 1:19:56 PM    AntiqueMeds   Posts: 2034 Joined: 3/6/2009 From: Frederick, MD. Status: offline tools and pottery are always good indications of camps/villages. If it was on a sand bar in a river it could have come from anywhere up river. < Message edited by AntiqueMeds -- 2/6/2012 1:21:30 PM > _____________________________ My web site - http://www.AntiqueMedicines.com/ Medicine BLOG : http://antiquemedicines.com/blog/ Email me : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 11

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 1:43:19 PM    Dugout   Posts: 1734 Joined: 1/27/2008 Status: offline In my opinion you should find more, but maybe not another drill. Possibly a hide scrapper or an arrowhead next. You'll just have to look and see what reveals itself to you.  Happy Hunting! (in reply to AntiqueMeds) Post #: 12

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 4:25:13 PM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline here is a few more pics. Thanks for all the great information. I emailed the local university musem curator for help iding a possible tribe, but she didnt know and was going to fwd my email on to another department. Attachment (1) (in reply to Dugout) Post #: 13

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 4:26:45 PM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline better focus Attachment (1) (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 14

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 4:28:16 PM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline d Attachment (1) (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 15

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/6/2012 6:17:38 PM    Poison_Us Posts: 2954 Joined: 5/27/2009 From: Savannah, Ga. Status: offline My anthro book is in the garage buried.  It covers all sorts of different styles of points.  It looks familiar...but it wont be dug out today... _____________________________ Poison Us Member: APBCA ( www.poisonbottleclub.org ) Visit Us @: www.poisonousaddiction.com Looking for digging partners in/near Savannah. Be a friend. Give the "GIFT" of Poison. (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 16

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/7/2012 10:51:05 AM    RedGinger Posts: 6727 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline That is neat, whatever the final verdict is.  It's fun to research the tribes in your area.  The problem is that other tribes would come through and there would be wars.  So, there is no way to be certain who's point, drill, etc. it is.  The couple I found were most likely from the Susquehannocks, I found out from research.  They were a very interesting, fearsome tribe who reportedly had thighs as big around as a man's chest.   _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVTdY2BI3g (in reply to Poison_Us) Post #: 17

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/7/2012 11:03:50 AM    rpinkham   Posts: 92 Joined: 12/16/2011 From: SE Pa Status: offline East coast obsidian? Thought that was more of a western thing...came a long way maybe (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 18

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/7/2012 12:43:59 PM    AntiqueMeds   Posts: 2034 Joined: 3/6/2009 From: Frederick, MD. Status: offline more likely a black flint, not uncommon in western VA _____________________________ My web site - http://www.AntiqueMedicines.com/ Medicine BLOG : http://antiquemedicines.com/blog/ Email me : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to rpinkham) Post #: 19

RE: Shark tooth...Nope - 2/7/2012 12:47:15 PM    AMCS   Posts: 63 Joined: 1/18/2012 Status: offline Waiting on a reply from the College of William & Mary PaleoIndian Archaeologist. Apparently Obsidian is found locally here in VA, and VA was called out on a website I was reading as the only East coast state that has it.  Not sure if that is true, but we do have it.  (in reply to AMCS) Post #: 20

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