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Soda - 1/8/2003 1:11:55 PM    Guest This is a soda I recently dug in Toronto and was wondering if anybody had any info. Imbossing is Cantrell & Cochrane Aerated Water Belfast & Dublin Robin Attachment (1) < Message edited by Robin Anderson -- 1/8/2003 1:14:43 PM >   Post #: 1

RE: Soda - 1/20/2003 1:01:09 AM    Guest Robin, This company was a large European soda company that shipped soda water to the US & Canada in large bulk. Your bottle dates approx. 1870 - 1880. The reason for the round bottom was so that the bottle had to be stored vertically on the ship. If they were stored upright, the cork would dry out and the pressure from the soda water would pop the cork out thus causing the soda to go flat..... (guess they never thought of wiring the cork or it was too expensive) Hope that helps.................. mrbottle (in reply to Guest)   Post #: 2

RE: Soda - 1/25/2003 5:35:05 PM    Guest Further to the previous reply. Cantrell & Cochran were still going in (at least) the 1920s when their trade mark was a laurel wreath around the letters C & C. I think the name may still have been around until the last few years. The shape of your bottle is known as a Hamilton. In 1809 William Hamilton patented a bottle filling machine and showed a bottle of this shape in one of the sketches for his invention, This is the reason he has been credited with the invention of this type of bottle, however it is highly likely that Jacob Schweppes was already using this design when he came to England from Vienna in 1793. The drink was originally a copy of spa water, Joseph Priestly had analysed these waters in the late 1770s and found that they usually contained Carbon Dioxide. Schweppes discovered that he could get a very high gas pressure into the drink if CO2 was introduced under pressure. At that time he was selling them as a health drink and was adding substances such as Magnesia & Lithia as a treatment for stomach complaints. The bottle was sealed with a cork hammered into place and (usually) tied in with wire or string. It was laid on its side so that the liquid stayed in contact with the cork & kept it moist. If the cork dried out it could shrink & allow the gas to escape. When the string was cut, often the gas pressure blew the cork out of the bottle (like champagne) and the noise it made gave rise to the expression " a bottle of pop" John Woodhams (The Old Bottleman) (in reply to Guest)   Post #: 3

RE: Soda - 1/27/2003 4:42:14 AM    baltbottles   Posts: 823 Joined: 11/25/2002 From: Baltimore Maryland Status: offline Hi Robin, I thought I would correct Johns reply your bottle is not a Hamilton it is a Maughams Patent the bottles commonly called Hamiltons are more ovate or egg shaped with the center of the bottle having a larger diameter. Also on some examples the base comes to a blunt point. Wear as your Maughams Patent the sides are strait with just the base rounded this was a improvement on the Hamilton as you could pack more of these in a smaller area. In the US most collectors refer to the Hamiltons as torpedoes and the Maughams Patent as round bottoms. Chris (in reply to Guest) Post #: 4

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