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Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/12/2010 8:48:24 PM    crackpot   Posts: 56 Joined: 5/18/2004 Status: offline Part of my collection of jars [SIZE=10]I have adopted the rarity rating that is in Keith Mortimers book on Pot Lids. [/SIZE] RRRR ..Less than 10 RRR ...Between 10-25 RR ....Between 25-50 R .....Between 50-150 S .....Between 150-250 C .....More than 250 exist Post #: 1

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/12/2010 8:51:07 PM    bostaurus   Posts: 2080 Joined: 2/17/2009 From: Madison, Wisconsin Status: offline Those are beautiful. thanks for posting them. _____________________________ Always looking for veterinary bottles, American and foreign. (in reply to crackpot) Post #: 2

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/12/2010 8:56:49 PM    woody Posts: 3639 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline I don't dig any of those around these parts...... _____________________________ Woody (in reply to bostaurus) Post #: 3

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/12/2010 9:17:33 PM    surfaceone Posts: 5757 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Hello crackpot, Perfect pictures of Pratt pots! Sayin it 5 times fast. What is the terminology for the ones with the "granitey" necks? Like this Did it contain tobacco? How's come the Crystal Palace is so rare in this one? While less rare in this? Knowing nothing over here, so please pardon the dumb questions. Are they souvenir issues? I would'a thunk there'd be scads of those guys because of it's London Landmark status. The more delicate shape is more common? I am surprised. I like the Crimean War ones, everso. I hope you're gonna tell us more. I know you've got plenty on yer plate, so thanks for this great introduction. (in reply to crackpot) Post #: 4

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/12/2010 9:34:04 PM    Gidday Posts: 166 Joined: 7/3/2004 Status: offline GREAT jars Crackpot. The "Hill an Ledger" and "Feet at Anchor" are my favs. (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 5

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/12/2010 9:37:42 PM    crackpot   Posts: 56 Joined: 5/18/2004 Status: offline Cheers for the comments Ok ...where do I start. The grainy types are called mottled ground or seaweed ground. Many have cryptic clues to their contents, like the top two which may have had tobacco or snuff. The Crimean series were basically commemorating the event so it would be to attract the buying public. The examples with Crystal Palace 1851 were I believe to highlight the manufacturers achievement at this event. Their contents varies from sauces, shrimp sauce, meat pastes, anchovy paste, jams, caviar etc. The bottles which look like vases had sauce. The pictures are about 5 years old and I have doubled the amount of jars pictured so when I get a moment I will take some more images and add them (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 6

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/12/2010 9:49:23 PM    RED Matthews Posts: 2268 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: offline WOW!! crackpot,  You have hit me with a blivit.  Fantastic collection an one of my dream collectibles.  I just saw a book on this type of products that was in a used book shop.  Now I will have to go back and get it, if it is still there.  Great examples.  RED Matthews    _____________________________ http://www.bottlemysteries.com/welcome/ (in reply to crackpot) Post #: 7

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/12/2010 10:30:57 PM    surfaceone Posts: 5757 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline quote: The Crimean series were basically commemorating the event so it would be to attract the buying public. Hey crackpot, Were there any commemorating the Light Brigade? Or, would that be a non-starter? (in reply to crackpot) Post #: 8

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/13/2010 1:17:09 AM    TROG   Posts: 517 Joined: 9/27/2004 From: South Australia Status: offline Hi Crackpot, Absolutely amazing world class collection and thankyou for showing these to members of this forum.I only have a couple of these jars but here is a lid I have that I beleive is quite scarce. Attachment (1) < Message edited by TROG -- 2/13/2010 1:18:43 AM > _____________________________ AMERICAN POT LIDS WANTED (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 9

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/13/2010 3:21:18 AM    crackpot   Posts: 56 Joined: 5/18/2004 Status: offline Yes, I am pretty sure that Balaklava was the famous "Charge of the Light Brigade" I have all the Crimean lids with the famous Generals etc I will post them at a later date (in reply to TROG) Post #: 10

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/13/2010 10:10:08 PM    surfaceone Posts: 5757 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Hey crackpot, Is this the one? I saw this and wondered about it. Tell me it didn't contain "Potted Meat," please. Hey David, I saw a scholarly article about your lid, somewhere on the internet. I am busy not finding it again. It talked about the "R" & 'W" on the stern of that boat. What harbor is that? That's how I think I got on to it... Sorry to be so muddled. (in reply to crackpot) Post #: 11

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/14/2010 1:52:23 AM    crackpot   Posts: 56 Joined: 5/18/2004 Status: offline There were basically three principal places where they potted shrimp & bloater paste with reputed excellence. They were Ramsgate, Margate and neighbouring Pegwell Bay in Kent. I feel quite confident that David's lid is in the Ramsgate area. I know there are two possibilities with the initials RW but neither are conclusive.  Re the Jar well it is anyone's guess what it had in it. I am sure several companies would have used this scene. Here is a very large lid with a scene in Ramsgate (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 12

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/14/2010 7:22:54 AM    cobaltbot Posts: 3876 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline wow!  didn't realise those existed!!  thanks!!! _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to crackpot) Post #: 13

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/14/2010 12:41:52 PM    stumpknocker   Posts: 293 Joined: 1/6/2010 Status: offline That’s an awesome collection you have there. I’ve never even seen anything like that before. Thanks for sharing the pictures of your collection. (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 14

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/15/2010 3:28:05 AM    crackpot   Posts: 56 Joined: 5/18/2004 Status: offline Part of my collection of Staffordshire Pot Lids. I took all these pics back in 2004 and the collection has grown since. I should update it but this is a good cross section [SIZE=10]The following pot lids are all large examples. I have adopted the rarity rating that is in Keith Mortimers book on Pot Lids. [/SIZE] RRRR ..Less than 10 RRR ...Between 10-25 RR ....Between 25-50 R .....Between 50-150 S .....Between 150-250 C .....More than 250 exist [SIZE=10]These are all medium size lids[/SIZE] [SIZE=10]This lid is unrecorded with marbelling[/SIZE] [SIZE=10]These are all medium-small lids[/SIZE] (in reply to stumpknocker) Post #: 15

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/15/2010 12:18:57 PM    surfaceone Posts: 5757 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Hello crackpot, I'm in awe of your collection! ‘Here he comes with flaming bowl, Don’t he mean to take his toll, Snip! Snap! Dragon! Take care you don’t take too much, Be not greedy in your clutch, Snip! Snap! Dragon! With his blue and lapping tongue Many of you will be stung, Snip! Snap! Dragon! For he snaps at all that comes Snatching at his feast of plums, Snip! Snap! Dragon! But Old Christmas makes him come, Though he looks so fee! fa! fum! Snip! Snap! Dragon! Don’t ‘ee fear him, be but bold– Out he goes, his flames are cold, Snip! Snap! Dragon!’ From. I can almost feel my hair singeing... (in reply to crackpot) Post #: 16

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/15/2010 1:55:36 PM    surfaceone Posts: 5757 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Hello David, I was frustrated in my earlier attempt to find that "RW" lid article. Went back to the well, and Voila, here it is. You've probably long since seen that, right? (in reply to TROG) Post #: 17

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 2/22/2010 12:03:23 AM    surfaceone Posts: 5757 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Hello again crackpot, Are we literally watching old Lord Raglan slipping the veil in this group? I'm guessing as to chronology here. Could you provide some colour commentary? I sure did like his sleeves. I gotta Raglan jacket at the back of a closet somewhere round here. Gotta dig that up & dust it off one day. (in reply to crackpot) Post #: 18

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 3/5/2010 7:53:07 PM    potstone   Posts: 428 Joined: 12/11/2007 From: South Eastern PA Status: offline You have a spectacular collection. I could easily get addicted to that type of collecting. Thanks for showing, Greg (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 19

RE: Staffordshire Jars or Pratt Jars - 4/24/2010 4:58:32 AM    crackpot   Posts: 56 Joined: 5/18/2004 Status: offline Cheers Greg. I don't get on here much so apologies for the delay. Here is a lid with original label. It is called Bears at School. (in reply to potstone) Post #: 20

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