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Token / coin ? - 11/13/2011 12:42:40 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline My son recently was given several WWII Nazi & German souvenirs from a WWII veterans estate. One piece has me really stumped in trying to ID it. It's a coin or token, about the size of a nickel, I believe it's made of steel. One side is German "GEBIET DES OBERBEFEHLSHABERS OST" according to one translation site means "Area of the Commander". The opposite side has the design of a Iron Cross which fills the face. Inside, top of the design, is the numeral 1 followed in Cyrillic "КОπѢѝоА" on the cross arm (the letters are all the same size on the disc) and the date 1916 at the bottom. Any idea of where I can find the story behind this piece? I'll be shooting pictures shortly. < Message edited by Buffalo Hunter -- 11/13/2011 12:44:20 PM > Post #: 1

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/13/2011 12:55:28 PM    MIdigger   Posts: 767 Joined: 3/3/2010 Status: offline Its a German 1 kopek coin used in occupied Russian areas During WW1. Values are all over the map seen them at $1 to $30.00. Interesting find. Got some 1870s German coins at the last flea mkt I went to. I havent seen your particular one before. < Message edited by MIdigger -- 11/13/2011 1:02:31 PM > (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 2

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/13/2011 3:04:07 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline Thank you, here is a group shot of some of the small stuff he received. He was also given maybe a dozen pieces of currency which are from all over including denominations and age. Attachment (1) (in reply to MIdigger) Post #: 3

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/13/2011 3:07:59 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline reverse sides One of the items he received which threw me was a black combat badge, it threw me b/c the helmet didn't have a swastika. Turns out it was from WWI, my guess is it was the same owner as the coin. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Buffalo Hunter -- 11/13/2011 3:08:38 PM > (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 4

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/13/2011 3:23:45 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12318 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online Nice coins.. that 'token' coin looks indeed like a 1 kopek coin issued during the occupation of parts of Poland/Russia.. (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 5

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/13/2011 3:37:52 PM    blobbottlebob Posts: 3663 Joined: 12/20/2005 From: Wisconsin Status: online Good job people (as usual). As correctly noted, the Russian on the black coin reads "1 kopek 1916". Neat little piece of history. (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 6

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/13/2011 7:55:11 PM    MIdigger   Posts: 767 Joined: 3/3/2010 Status: offline Looking your coins up in Whitmans Modern world coins 1850-1964 shows that your 5 and 10 pfennings are worth about 2-2.50 each and the Von Hindenburgs are worth about 10-12 each, (I also have some `36s of this issue) they are listed as a silver content coin, but Ive no idea what the silver content of the coins are as nothing is in the book on that. Hope that helps a bit. (in reply to blobbottlebob) Post #: 7

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 6:58:03 PM    surfaceone Posts: 7141 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Hello Senor Buffalo Hunter, Glad to see you with a pocket full of strange stuff. I'm a total dolt on coinage and WW II memorabilia, but I notice that the coinage does no justice to von Hindenburg's moustaches... (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 8

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:06:08 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline Yeah I have to admitt I was a little jealous of my son's finds and like you I have not a real clue about such items. Thank goodness for the internet! Heck until I saw the coins I always thought of Hinderburg as.... Attachment (1) (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 9

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:11:20 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12318 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online I believe they both weighed about the same.. depending on varying levels of gassiness.. (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 10

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:14:57 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have two more pieces which are not coins I'm hoping someone will be as knowledgeable about. One is a metal plaque which looks like pewter or sliver plate, I know it's not pewter and silver plate is not likely. I'll post pictures and see what the members feel, the oddest piece to me (which my son pointed out) is the locomotive. Attachment (1) (in reply to MIdigger) Post #: 11

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:16:04 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline Now that's a hoot! (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 12

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:17:31 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline #2 Attachment (1) (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 13

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:19:25 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline #3 Attachment (1) (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 14

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:20:29 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline #4 Attachment (1) (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 15

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:21:48 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline #5 Attachment (1) (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 16

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:22:06 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12318 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online I think that item dates to the 1920's.. don't know what it is, but it has the 20's look to it.. especially the caption.. (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 17

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:26:09 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline The second piece is a pin, advertising is my best guess. From the translation site it appears the back side more or less is the manf. selling his goods. The wording on the front still has me stumped as to who -what -when and what the heck. Attachment (1) (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 18

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:28:35 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline It's nice regardles, just how would I list it for sale? Attachment (1) (in reply to Buffalo Hunter) Post #: 19

RE: Token / coin ? - 11/14/2011 7:30:01 PM    Buffalo Hunter   Posts: 329 Joined: 2/20/2009 Status: offline Any idea what the first word translate to in English? (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 20

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