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Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/26/2009 7:43:57 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline Trying to get this Celery Compound cleaned up and can't get rid of all the sickness. It's been tumbling in 1200 (with some 1000 added too) for 6 days in glass beads. The embossing was already somewhat rounded before the cleaning began, so I've been putting fingernail polish on the letters to help preserve what's left. The bottle is now uniformly frosted, but the sickness won't budge. What do I do next? Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/26/2009 7:47:21 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12319 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online That's a good one to experiment on, Barbara.. it's a pretty common bottle..  if you tumble it down to a slick, I'll send you a fresh one..!  (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 2

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/26/2009 7:58:24 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline Unfortunately most of my bottles fit into the "a good one to experiment on" category so I have little fear when it comes to cleaning them. I'll just keep it rolling and see what happens.... quote: if you tumble it down to a slick, I'll send you a fresh one..! Is that a promise? Thanks, Barbara < Message edited by BarbaraInCalif -- 12/26/2009 7:59:13 PM > (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 3

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/26/2009 8:03:22 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12319 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online It is ...but I will need to see a slick Paine's before I send it!  (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 4

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/26/2009 8:34:16 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline Actually my goal is to clean it up nicely so it wouldn't have to be replaced! A fresh coat of fingernail polish has been applied and is drying, plus I'll add more 1000 SC to the canister. I'm starting to think that a more abrasive SC is needed with the glass beads. Can anyone confirm that idea? (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 5

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/26/2009 9:37:35 PM    bottlediger Posts: 2367 Joined: 2/19/2006 From: York Pa Status: offline Barb, you will run into that sometimes with glass beads. There are some stains out there that no matter what SC you use when tumbling with GBs you wont kill it. I had a drinking glass I tumbled with glass beads and 600 and it just wouldnt budge. Copper would take that right off though, its just more dense. So all in all you'll run into that every once in a while when just using GBs Good luck Digger Ry _____________________________ Professional Tumbling Services Digger Ry Style My Tumbling Page (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 6

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/27/2009 5:44:57 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline Yeah, I suspected that Ry. I had a milk bottle tumbling for days with 600 and very little happened. I haven't been able to polish with 1500 SC either; my theory is that the beads aren't able to break the 1500 down into a polish. Thinking I'll let the 1000 run for a few days on this bottle, then transfer it up to the next size of canister to see if the weight of more beads will help. If not, there always the copper from Doc..... Barbara (in reply to bottlediger) Post #: 7

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/28/2009 6:32:23 PM    privvydigger Posts: 2597 Joined: 7/16/2006 From: Heart of the Coal Regions Status: offline I can't seem to grasp the thought of a Paines spinning for 6 days(electricity) and not coming out minty clean.  Everything so far in my experience is no bottle no matter how sick should not take more than 3 or 4 days to clean and polish.  Stop spinning with beeds, save on electricity, buy some copper my arsenal is made up of 600, 1200, 1500, 1800-2000 & Aluminum Oxide.  I use copper and it works. As far as getting copper I won't drive bye a garbage can and not pic out that piece of copper sticking out.  _____________________________ thx privvydigger gtr'dug Collector of all Coaldale & Lansford, And love digging Summit Hill, Mauch Chunk & Tamaqua, Pa. sodas, beers, milks..... (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 8

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/28/2009 7:28:09 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I'm thinking depleted uranium pelets should do a turbo tumble. Hey Ry can you hook me up with some raw material _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to privvydigger) Post #: 9

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/28/2009 7:33:09 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12319 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online You can also cut up your unwanted gold and silver jewelry.. platinum, too.  (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 10

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/29/2009 10:34:59 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline gold would work great. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 11

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/29/2009 11:11:56 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline Would gold be too soft (not that I have any!), or is it simply the weight of the media pushing the polishing/cutting compound against the glass? (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 12

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 12/30/2009 12:11:12 AM    cyberdigger Posts: 12319 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online Gold would wear out faster than copper, being a softer metal, but it has more "cleansing power" during it's lifespan in the tumbler, because it is heavier and would indeed augment the cutting and polishing effect. I used gold for all my tumbling until the price got out of control.. but I don't accept responsibility for that!  (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 13

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 1/3/2010 10:04:03 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline Time for an update! After the initial posting, this bottle was tumbled in GB media with 600 SC for 3 days in a 4 inch canister. Some sickness remains plus the corners were not getting frosted like they should: Attachment (1) (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 14

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 1/3/2010 10:07:08 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline So, next in this experiment was to try a larger canister. After 3 days of 600 SC with GB in a 5 inch canister it looks perfectly clean and frosted to me: Attachment (1) (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 15

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 1/3/2010 10:23:28 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline The theory I'm using when doing trials with glass beads is that the rules of cutting compound grits used with copper do not apply. This bottle was tumbled for 12 hours in 220 SC with glass beads and a 4 inch canister. It was cleaned up, but not enough, and the embossing has not been affected: Attachment (1) (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 16

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 1/3/2010 10:26:53 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline ...and here is what that one originally looked like: Attachment (1) (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 17

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 1/3/2010 10:31:08 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I would expect glass beads to operate much different than the higher density copper. Experimenting is the right thing to do. My biggest fear with glass beads is using it on soft glass and having the beads become the cutting media. So far havent encountered that. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 1/3/2010 10:32:03 PM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 18

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 1/3/2010 10:46:13 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline Thank you for the words of encouragement! Here is the 2nd bottle after another 10 hours, for 22 hours total in 220 SC. The exterior looks done (to me); what do you think? Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 19

RE: Tumbling out sickness...help please! - 1/3/2010 10:47:39 PM    BarbaraInCalif   Posts: 327 Joined: 9/21/2009 Status: offline While the interior still needs to be worked on... Attachment (1) (in reply to BarbaraInCalif) Post #: 20

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