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Ultra-violet coloring - 1/3/2008 7:32:35 PM   
Graydigger

 

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Status: offline 		Any tips on UV for coloring?  What kind of  lightbulbs?  How long, etc.  Thinking of adding a little more amethyst to a few of mine (but not the dark Purple that I see in some irradiated). Any help appreciated.  Thanks
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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/3/2008 7:43:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why sir, in the name of god would you want a purple bottle? Who would do such a thing, I ask you? those bottles should be taken away and put into protective custody. will I be seeing these tortured specimens on ebay as "sun colored" good god what's the world come to

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/3/2008 8:20:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was always told that if you build a box and line it with tin foil, install black lights in it, and inclose the bottles in it for several days, it will do a number on them giving them a dark blue color. I am with you Lobes, I think it ruins a bottle. Makes its color look fake and to me quite unattractive. There is no way in the world I would want to do such a thing to a good bottle.  I believe if a person had a bunch of clear bottles that contained maganease (think I spelled that wrong) who wanted to darken them up for window display I could see no harm in that. It is regretable though that you do see bottles from time to time that have had this procedure done to them being passed off for sale as true color. Again, it seems to me it is quite obvious when you see them, but a beginning collector could be fooled by this I suppose.

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/3/2008 9:05:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am confused...
So dark purple is bad? Light purple is good?
Or no purple is good? Any purple is bad?
What is the threshold?

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 1:20:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please relax a little.  I am with you regarding the "purple" bottles.  That was not my plan.  To me they look artificial and very unnatural. L. C. had the right slant---I have a few that are tinted amethyst that I would like to darken  somewhat (but not purple). Rather than exposing them to the sun for months, years, whatever?,  I considered using UV to accomplish the same results. To me, the dark purple you see is obvious and artificial.  Thanks to all for the comments.  

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 3:46:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		One way I've seen out west is to stick them in a foil lined box on the roof for a few months.  Black lights wont work.  Look around in either HVAC supply, or medical supply for germicidal lamps.  They must produce UV light.

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 4:20:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use a UV bulb and base assembly that is designed for air sterilization in furnace air ducts. Just had to make a box for it.  UV bulbs for water treatment will work but they often have jackets around them. Also you can just plug these bulbs into 120VAC , they need ballasts like most flourecent bulbs.

The roof method is a bit risky due to the environmental issues. For instance they will get very hot and if a thunderstorm comes up and drops cool rain on them guess what happens.

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 4:37:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		True dat.  I've never tried the roof method, but I talked to a shopowner in Colorado about it.  He told me the entire rooftop of their store was covered in bottles turning purple.  He did mention losing some, mostly ones that were full of water and froze.  I wonder if lenses intensify UV light from the sun?  Might have to do a project.  Spotted purple meds?

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 4:54:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Things that are lenses and mirrors for visable light dont always work well for UV and infrared parts of the spectrum.  I suppose you could mask a bottle and just purple a section of it. Never tried it. Sounds like fun.

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 7:49:33 PM   
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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 8:04:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		please stop....stop the madness. why don't we tie-dye the declaration of independance. why not repeal the 13th amendment....hey lets elect Bush again...lets alter all sorts of things

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 8:48:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		     Nuke em!That's what I say!Purple is beautiful.People like them,period!I DON'T, but it is a way to make something uncollectable,collectable.The problem lies when people start altering every hutch or local bottle they get there hands on not knowing anything about rarity.People give me crap sometimes,but if it helps pay for my time digging selling crap that would otherwise be thrown back in holes,who cares.I've never sold one as suncolored or sold a funky amber colored one that would change back to clear.I dislike this behavior as much as the next guy.

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 9:11:58 PM   
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please stop....stop the madness. why don't we tie-dye the declaration of independance. why not repeal the 13th amendment....hey lets elect Bush again...lets alter all sorts of things

I say we tie-dye Bush, take everything back to the true declaration, and leave the 13th alone, since we're all slaves anyway. To the man, that is.

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 9:16:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		 I like um real, clear or puce, they way they where made and left in the ground.But thats just me.
Purple nuke is fake and UN natural just like a lot of people . But thats just my opinion. Rick

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 10:31:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I say Nuke em too !  You should always assume that when you acquire an amethyst bottle that it has been enhanced , unless you picked it up off the ground yourself.  Nevertheless , a little more color on the shelf is never a bad thing, especially if it started out as a plain jane clear med.  

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/4/2008 11:14:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		these both came from the same dump but one was closer to the surface than the other .i like the natural sun colored ones




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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/5/2008 12:07:40 AM   
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lets alter all sorts of things


I'm currently working on a goat with a cat's head.
I still have some work to do on it

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/5/2008 6:31:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hahahahaha!!!! now thats what I need to wake up to,to start the day.

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/5/2008 8:44:59 AM   
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Purple nuke is fake and UN natural just like a lot of people .



   You like trying to start it don't you.Weren't you trying to have me purple a flask for you a while back?

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RE: Ultra-violet coloring - 1/5/2008 8:52:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Identical bottles in an antique shop. Same mold, same condition, same price. One's naturally sun colored the other's clear. You just had to pay for cosmetic surgery on your mother's varicose veins so you only afford one. Which one do you choose for your display collection?


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