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Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/7/2011 2:26:53 PM   
Uncle_Jarvis


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Status: offline 		Hey guys .

I have several Cole Parmer ultrasonic cleaning machines at my employment. I was wondering how well would this method work when compared to using chemicals and scrubbing?

Does anyone have experience with this ?


thanks.

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/7/2011 2:53:01 PM   
SC pontil collector

 

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What is Cole Palmer ultra cleaning machine and what is usually used for?
Thanks,
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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/7/2011 5:09:18 PM   
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Status: online 		These cleaners transform low-frequency AC current into 42 kHz high-frequency sound waves via a piezoelectric transducer. The transducer creates sinusoidal waves, which in turn cause cavitation—the formation and violent collapse of minute vacuum bubbles in the solution. These implosions thoroughly scrub every surface with which the solution makes contact, yet are not harsh on delicate items.
I'd love to know what results you get on sick glass, uncle J..

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/7/2011 5:17:28 PM   
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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 9:42:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I brought some test subjects into work today..     Hold on, Ill take a pic before I proceed 

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 10:28:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for explaining what this method does and how it works. Sounds like some pretty high tech stuff.
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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 10:32:41 AM   
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via a piezoelectric transducer.

Chuck,
It sounds like you've been watching the sci-fi channel.

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 11:24:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		here is a link to what Im using .. 

http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/product_view.asp?sku=0889504

I have one unit with cleaning solution and another with distilled water only

just ran a 60 min cycle .. gona do it again and then put the bottles in the water only bath for another 60 min



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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 11:31:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		never thought of that, used to use ultra sonic in my past employement .May work great,keep us posted. you may be onto something here

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 12:07:22 PM   
Uncle_Jarvis


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Have in mind I was using scotch brite pads and industrial cylinder brushes with barkeepers friend and progress was...slow.... minimal results..  and a lot of grunt force required.. for these bottles


Currently
I went to take a look at the progress of my 3 bottles after the 60 min cycle..  Upon inspection I found no need for another cleaning cycle so I proceeded to put them in the distilled water bath.

Results are pretty staggering. (in a good way)   All three bottles were cloudy and had mineral deposits all encrusted in the glass. NOW they look brand new.

Super fragile and delicate bottles and glass ware would vastly benefit from this method also.. there is 0 abrasion in any way what so ever . .

Im speechless folks... 

I'll post up some pics a lil later , I just realized I forgot my usb cable at home...





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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 12:17:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		The ultrasonic machine will not fix abrasions or case wear marks (thats where a tumbler come in) but as far as removing actual material and mineral deposits go (the least evasive way possible), I find this to be my new , go to solution..  

Now I need a tumbler.. 

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 12:41:03 PM   
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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 6:03:20 PM   
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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 6:10:23 PM   
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Status: online 		I hope the sickness doesn't reappear when the bottles dry out.. if not, I'd definitely like to see before/after pix!

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/8/2011 10:58:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Next question is, can you buy one of these that will clean a larger bottle, something like a quart soda?

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/9/2011 12:18:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cyberdigger

These cleaners transform low-frequency AC current into 42 kHz high-frequency sound waves via a piezoelectric transducer. The transducer creates sinusoidal waves, which in turn cause cavitation—the formation and violent collapse of minute vacuum bubbles in the solution. These implosions thoroughly scrub every surface with which the solution makes contact, yet are not harsh on delicate items.
I'd love to know what results you get on sick glass, uncle J..


Sounds somewhat technical.

Allow me to explain it in layman's terms

Lightning will strike the clock tower, electrifying the cable...
as the connecting hook makes contact...
thereby sending 1.21 gigawatts into the flux capacitor...
and sending you back to 1985.

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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/9/2011 1:12:13 AM   
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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/9/2011 11:16:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		sorry to leave ya'll hanging .. Yesterday I never took before pics..  I had 3 sickly bottles of the common Bromo Seltzer. I have after pics Ill post in a bit.

Today I brought 4 Coke bottles in that I have previously cleaned but once they dried you got this cloudy caking matte finish on the inside from what Im guessing is mineral deposits that could not be removed when I vigorously hand cleaned them with brushes and barkeepers friend ..  It was a bit frustrating but as we speak Im giving them a go in the ultrasonic bath.

Im just refining some settings with proper heat temperature and De-gas the solution , because air bubbles are BAD for this cleaning method. Ohhh. I took before pics this time around also. keep posted..


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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/9/2011 2:23:59 PM   
Uncle_Jarvis


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Status: offline 		Here are some pics from yesterday .. these 3 bottles were very cloudy looking before the dip.. They look pretty good now.





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RE: Ultrasonic cleaning : Bottles - 9/9/2011 2:27:29 PM   
Uncle_Jarvis


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Status: offline 		Have in mind with these next one. They were already cleaned but were being very picky on loosing that dang sick look. . The aqua ss coke looks like there not much hope other than a tumbling.

BEFORE the ultrasonic cleaning







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