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United States Cream Separator - 4/20/2008 6:43:03 PM    Beebs   Posts: 138 Joined: 5/7/2007 From: Upstate NY Status: offline Ok all, I need help with this one. Here in the Adirondacks it's hard to dig in the winter, so I like exploring old, very old farm houses. (with permission)  I found this, the owner said "take it, it's junk." Not only do I have this, I also have the owners manual & the salesman's pamphlet  from the 1800's. No one can tell me it's value. It has all original parts & still cranks smoothly. Can anyone tell me anything?? Oh yeah, I have not attempted to clean it, as I don't want to ruin it. It came from the Vermont Machine Company. I'd really like to find out it's value. Thanks everyone in advance for your help.  Beebs Attachment (1) _____________________________ If the snow is too deep to dig a dump, dig an old attic" Post #: 1

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/20/2008 6:46:13 PM    Beebs   Posts: 138 Joined: 5/7/2007 From: Upstate NY Status: offline Another pic. It says "Vermont Farm Machine Co." Attachment (1) _____________________________ If the snow is too deep to dig a dump, dig an old attic" (in reply to Beebs) Post #: 2

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/20/2008 6:50:41 PM    Beebs   Posts: 138 Joined: 5/7/2007 From: Upstate NY Status: offline Trying to post more pics.. _____________________________ If the snow is too deep to dig a dump, dig an old attic" (in reply to Beebs) Post #: 3

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/20/2008 6:55:37 PM    Beebs   Posts: 138 Joined: 5/7/2007 From: Upstate NY Status: offline Yellow sticker has all the pat. dates which are all in the mid & late 1800's Attachment (1) _____________________________ If the snow is too deep to dig a dump, dig an old attic" (in reply to Beebs) Post #: 4

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/21/2008 1:21:20 AM    covert   Posts: 5 Joined: 3/31/2008 Status: offline Well I personally know very little about cream separators, but I do happen to know some people that know more about them than probably anyone you'll find. I can't for the life of me find their emails or phone numbers right now, but regardless I'll be heading to the Cream Separator Convention (held in conjunction with the Hay Carrier Convention...my reason for going) in the middle of May and I know for sure I can get you an answer then (and if it has any rarity probably a buyer as well if you are looking to sell it). Sadly that leaves you a month of wondering and if you're anything like me you’d prefer more immediate answers haha. The president of the cream separator club (or whatever they call themselves) has an excellent book out for rating values on separators and now I’m wishing I would have spent the money and bought a copy so I could help ya out. Anyways now I’m just rambling, sorry I can’t be of any more help than that at least for a little bit. (in reply to Beebs) Post #: 5

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/21/2008 1:48:59 AM    covert   Posts: 5 Joined: 3/31/2008 Status: offline Ok did a little checking and got you a phone number of the man to talk to, Paul Dettloff is the man's name and his phone number is (608) 323-3047 (thanks whitepages.com) He knows more about them than probably anyone and is a super nice guy.  Let us all know what ya find out about it, and if you don't want to call him (or are more patient than I am) I'll be gald to print and take some pics with me in a month. (in reply to covert) Post #: 6

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/21/2008 10:26:52 AM    Beebs   Posts: 138 Joined: 5/7/2007 From: Upstate NY Status: offline Thank you covert for your help. I think I will give the guy a call, I mean after all it can't hurt. I will let you know what I find out. In the mean time if you happen to find anything out, please let me know. Thanks so much for your help.  Beebs _____________________________ If the snow is too deep to dig a dump, dig an old attic" (in reply to covert) Post #: 7

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/21/2008 11:13:16 AM    Beebs   Posts: 138 Joined: 5/7/2007 From: Upstate NY Status: offline Covert, I called the number & got a really weird answering machine. I did not leave a message, however I will try again later. Wish me luck. _____________________________ If the snow is too deep to dig a dump, dig an old attic" (in reply to Beebs) Post #: 8

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/21/2008 3:52:12 PM    Mike O Posts: 416 Joined: 12/26/2005 Status: offline My other hobbe is collecting hit and miss gasoline and steam engines. That is the group that can tell you about this seperator. Myself if it were the engine I would guess I could answer any and all of your questions. But since it is an attachment I cant. Thy this link. http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=fd200cbaaa115a5d27e292a4b769f847&f=5 OR http://www.enginads.com/classifieds/ This is a great forum an old engines amd machines. It is full of very helpfull people just like this one just a different subject. You know same thing only different!   LOL   Mike _____________________________ Some days i'm a digging fool, Some days i'm just a fool digging! What willl I be today? (in reply to Beebs) Post #: 9

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/21/2008 6:06:33 PM    covert   Posts: 5 Joined: 3/31/2008 Status: offline If you're a hit and miss guy Mike I ought to take a pic of the New Idea engine I got out in the shed, always wondered what kind of a vaule it had or how common it was, I go to alot of tractor shows and see lots of those engines and I think I've only ever seen one other New Idea. Whenever I ask guys at shows about it, they will never tell me a value but aren't afraid to tell me some low ball price they'd be willing to buy it for haha. (in reply to Mike O) Post #: 10

RE: United States Cream Separator - 4/21/2008 6:41:02 PM    Mike O Posts: 416 Joined: 12/26/2005 Status: offline The links I gave you will help with the New Idea also, That is kind of a later engine they are late 20's or early 30's  they were a veri-speed engine. They are not super high value engines because they are throttle governed and closed crank case if it is skidded I would say value of about $300.00 and if it is on trucks (a cart) it would be more like $500.00!  Mike _____________________________ Some days i'm a digging fool, Some days i'm just a fool digging! What willl I be today? (in reply to covert) Post #: 11

RE: United States Cream Separator - 5/1/2008 12:59:01 AM    lobeycat Posts: 3312 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Found these about a week ago, just getting round to posting them... Attachment (1) _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQJXYc5Zq6k&feature=related the 80's where fun~~~~~ (in reply to Mike O) Post #: 12

RE: United States Cream Separator - 5/1/2008 2:41:05 PM    covert   Posts: 5 Joined: 3/31/2008 Status: offline Wow the first one is one heck of a building! (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 13

RE: United States Cream Separator - 5/1/2008 6:07:37 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3312 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline The second picture is actually the same building from a different angle. End view to be exact... _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQJXYc5Zq6k&feature=related the 80's where fun~~~~~ (in reply to covert) Post #: 14

RE: United States Cream Separator - 5/1/2008 9:23:13 PM    covert   Posts: 5 Joined: 3/31/2008 Status: offline ahhh I see it now, I guess I should have said the second one doesn't do it nearly the justice the first one does. (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 15

RE: United States Cream Separator - 5/2/2008 2:50:31 AM    JGUIS   Posts: 1688 Joined: 3/18/2006 From: New Lexington, OH Status: offline Isn't the first a rendition?  They tend to exaggerate. _____________________________ A pipe gives a wise man time to think, and gives a fool something to stick in his mouth. (in reply to covert) Post #: 16

RE: United States Cream Separator - 5/2/2008 12:14:18 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3312 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline quote: Isn't the first a rendition? They tend to exaggerate. They're both reditions, but judging from the window count I'd say the scale is pretty accurate. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQJXYc5Zq6k&feature=related the 80's where fun~~~~~ (in reply to JGUIS) Post #: 17

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