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Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 8:58:12 PM   
Staunton Dan


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Status: offline 		I finally got everything together and have my 1st bottle in the tumbler that I built. Thanks to Charlie & Gary I got the biggest expense, the motor, at no charge. It runs smoothly and perfectly. I will be able to run at least 2 bottles at one time and probably more as soon as I figure out some of the mechanics. I am using 4" PVC pipe and right now with the setup you see here, it's turning at 48 RPMs. I need to cut more copper wire in order to get the second tube running. I will keep you all informed as to my progress.




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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 9:02:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the 1st bottle that I am cleaning, an Underwood's Ink. I wanted to start small so it wouldn't take as much copper as a larger bottle. It should be a good one to start with. I'm using aluminum oxide and will probably leave in for 3-4 days. 




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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 9:07:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's a good one to start with cuz it's round Dan. No corners to knock off. Best to start slow the first few times. I've seen newbies fubar their first runs

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 9:18:45 PM   
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Status: online 		Excellent, Dan! That's a great design!! I'm glad to know the motor is finally being put to good use once again.. might as well tell you now, I "salvaged" it from an abandoned funny farm  ..it powered an attic fan in the laundry building. There were around 15 more, but a guy can only carry so many motors.

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 9:21:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		nice tumbler. Am I the only weirdo with a direct drive tumbler?

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 9:24:37 PM   
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Am I the only weirdo
goes without saying. Direct drives the way to go I suppose. Got it running through a dimmer switch?

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 9:25:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great tumbler Dan. The home builts may not be as pretty as the Jar Docs but they get the job done and for a lot less.

Hey Matt, Can you put up a pic of your direct drive model?

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 9:26:50 PM   
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Status: online 		I think Sam (athometoo) made a direct drive out of an ice cream machine..

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 9:40:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the basic mechanism on my. It has a variable speed motor controller. The shaft is directly coupled with some rubberized U joints. I just do 1 bottle at a time so its very compact.




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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 10:21:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very cool Gunshot! Never let it be said that bottle folk aren't some ingenious OCD'ing mother slappers. McGiver would be proud!

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 10:48:03 PM   
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Here is the basic mechanism on my. It has a variable speed motor controller. The shaft is directly coupled with some rubberized U joints. I just do 1 bottle at a time so its very compact.





Variable speed motor controller sounds very interesting. Could one be bought and coupled to any motor? I still haven't figured out how to slow down or increase the speed easily and that just sounds good.  Changing pulley sizes is the only way I know of now. Any ideas out there?


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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 10:50:05 PM   
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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 11:00:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		What is that motor from Matt? Kinda looks like a pump motor. I had a variable speed control on mine but the motor wasn't made for it and it fried. Went back to pullies.

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 11:02:09 PM   
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Excellent, Dan! That's a great design!! I'm glad to know the motor is finally being put to good use once again.. might as well tell you now, I "salvaged" it from an abandoned funny farm  ..it powered an attic fan in the laundry building. There were around 15 more, but a guy can only carry so many motors.


Charlie, I just followed your design and bought 5/8" OD solid pipe and ran them into 5/8" ID pillow bearings. I covered the pipe with a split sleeve and made some stopples. 4" PVC, some screws, 2 x 6s and that pretty much gets it. Like you said most all could be bought at Home Depot. I had some help from a machine shop and a welder friend but I think I got it all done for under $200. Pretty cheap when you consider what the Jar Doctor gets for his machines. Not knocking his product but some of us are on a tighter budget and need to spend our money on the important things like bottles and supplies. Thanks again for all of your help.


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RE: Up and Running... - 6/24/2009 11:16:52 PM   
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Status: online 		Cool! remember, if you ever run across a 9/16" bar, you've got some bearings for it already! ..could be easily adapted to this frame..

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/25/2009 12:17:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		A friend gave me that motor and controller so i dont know what it originally went to.
I think its a DC motor so its not your run of the mill furnace motor.
Those light dimmers arent made to work with inductive loads so i would be careful there.
May be tough to do an electronic controller for a fixed ac motor. I'm a microprocessor/digital designer so motor electronics is not my forte.

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/25/2009 12:18:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Glad to see you got the old girl built Dan. Looks good! I knew you could do it. Let's see that ink when you get it done.

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/25/2009 1:20:11 AM   
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I'm a microprocessor/digital designer so motor electronics is not my forte.


You didn't have anything to do with hearing processor designs did ya. I have been wearing a pair for about a month and I can hear in my 50 to 70 decibel range. That damn F16 whine and 20mm cannons wiped it out. The look like little versions of the behind the ear type hearing aids but the only process sounds that are from 50 to 70 decibels.

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/25/2009 6:54:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, afraid not. I worked with shipboard IFF systems on AEGIS cruisers for about 12 years. Lately I have mostly been designing tactical radio communucations gear for special ops troops. About the only commercial stuff I do is network test equipment.

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RE: Up and Running... - 6/27/2009 6:27:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's the Underwood Ink before and after.  I think I'm going to like my new toy. 




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