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Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/10/2011 11:11:51 PM    Wheelah23 Posts: 4300 Joined: 8/9/2010 From: Glen Ridge, New Jersey Status: online I presume this to be a jar lid, but I've never seen anything remotely like it. The bottom reminds me of a mason insert except with embossing, but that's where anything usual ends. The top has an extremely strange serpentine shape molded into it, vaguely shaped like an "S". The glass has a very weird, noticeable, almost warped texture to it. There are also some strange notches within where the s shape stops, almost at the perimeter of the lid. The bottom says (backwards, so that you can only see it correctly through the top): "1898 PATD JANY. 11TH. I looked into it, and I think this goes to a Schies Closure or something like that? Is it rare? Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for bottles from Glen Ridge, Montclair, Bloomfield, Orange, East Orange, West Orange, South Orange, and if I like 'em, any other bottles from Essex County NJ! Also Manahawkin NJ! Message me if you want to find them a new home. Post #: 1

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/10/2011 11:12:13 PM    Wheelah23 Posts: 4300 Joined: 8/9/2010 From: Glen Ridge, New Jersey Status: online o Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for bottles from Glen Ridge, Montclair, Bloomfield, Orange, East Orange, West Orange, South Orange, and if I like 'em, any other bottles from Essex County NJ! Also Manahawkin NJ! Message me if you want to find them a new home. (in reply to Wheelah23) Post #: 2

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/10/2011 11:12:38 PM    Wheelah23 Posts: 4300 Joined: 8/9/2010 From: Glen Ridge, New Jersey Status: online Why the weird shape? Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for bottles from Glen Ridge, Montclair, Bloomfield, Orange, East Orange, West Orange, South Orange, and if I like 'em, any other bottles from Essex County NJ! Also Manahawkin NJ! Message me if you want to find them a new home. (in reply to Wheelah23) Post #: 3

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/10/2011 11:13:00 PM    Wheelah23 Posts: 4300 Joined: 8/9/2010 From: Glen Ridge, New Jersey Status: online You can only see the embossing through the top Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for bottles from Glen Ridge, Montclair, Bloomfield, Orange, East Orange, West Orange, South Orange, and if I like 'em, any other bottles from Essex County NJ! Also Manahawkin NJ! Message me if you want to find them a new home. (in reply to Wheelah23) Post #: 4

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/10/2011 11:25:47 PM    RICKJJ59W Posts: 11906 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: Lehigh Valley US of A Status: offline I found many of those lids in dumps and privy's. I always called them "snake lids" lol _____________________________ My web site. Lots of privy and dump dig pictures. Also dig story's I had published in Antique Bottle & Glass Collector magazine and Western & Eastern Treasure's www.19thcenturybottlediggers.com (in reply to Wheelah23) Post #: 5

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/11/2011 8:55:47 AM    lexdigger   Posts: 1770 Joined: 5/31/2005 From: Lexington, Ky. Status: offline That lid goes to a foods jar. They held various products from sauces to capers. It's was a general type container that normally had a paper label. The one I've seen the most says horseradish. (in reply to RICKJJ59W) Post #: 6

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/11/2011 9:01:43 AM    swizzle Posts: 3596 Joined: 3/2/2005 From: Upstate NY Status: offline Well here's a new one to add to the list Lexdigger. This is the best that I could come up with. Swiz (in reply to lexdigger) Post #: 7

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/11/2011 5:02:31 PM    jarhunter   Posts: 130 Joined: 1/24/2010 From: Dingmans Ferry, Pa. Status: offline Hi wheels, covered this in a previous post. Known as a Schies closure. Had a S shaped wire clamp. Redbook #2625. Warren (in reply to swizzle) Post #: 8

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/11/2011 5:33:30 PM    swizzle Posts: 3596 Joined: 3/2/2005 From: Upstate NY Status: offline That's good to know man. I didn't expect to see it in the redbook. Very cool. I just wish my paper label was a little bit better. At the bottom of the paper label it says Utica NY. I'm wondering if that's where all of these different bottles and jars originate or if they were plain bottles and jars shipped far and wide to different food companies. Swiz (in reply to jarhunter) Post #: 9

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/11/2011 6:36:38 PM    jarhunter   Posts: 130 Joined: 1/24/2010 From: Dingmans Ferry, Pa. Status: offline Hi swizz, redbook states that there were different sizes of jars and that the jars were unmarked. Hard to say which glass house made them. Warren (in reply to swizzle) Post #: 10

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 9/11/2011 9:03:32 PM    swizzle Posts: 3596 Joined: 3/2/2005 From: Upstate NY Status: offline Yeah I read the bit about different shapes and sizes. I like my pickle jar. Now I'm hoping to get a few of the different varieties with the same lid. Swiz (in reply to jarhunter) Post #: 11

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 11/27/2011 7:51:19 PM    VTdigger   Posts: 330 Joined: 4/1/2011 Status: offline I dug one like that today I like it, I was hope to find more like it since it's surprising I only found that one. the hole I found it in has a ton of broken food jars in it.   I have one 10 sided jar it fits pretty good. _____________________________ If there is a bottle... I will find it. Looking for Local embossed bottles from Bennington VT and Bennington county (in reply to swizzle) Post #: 12

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 11/29/2011 10:27:18 PM    DKF   Posts: 27 Joined: 11/23/2011 From: Massachusetts Status: offline Just a couple of months ago I found one just like yours, wheelah, except that mine is embossed "pat. applied for." I assume this means it was made in 1898 or earlier. I'm going to bed now but I'll post a pic in the morning. Donald (in reply to Wheelah23) Post #: 13

RE: Very weird jar lid (?) - 11/30/2011 10:49:54 AM    DKF   Posts: 27 Joined: 11/23/2011 From: Massachusetts Status: offline Here is my "Pat. Applied For" Schies closure: Attachment (1) (in reply to DKF) Post #: 14

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