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Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/23/2007 6:43:51 PM   
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I've been spending a good bit of my current scuba down time (recovering from herniated disk) researching sites to do some bottle diving come Spring.  I've tallied up two sites in Downeast Maine so far.  The old steamship pier site in Lubec which may never have been dove and a site off an island between Eastport and Lubec.  This second site is near an old government wharf.  The island was the site of fortifications back in the early 1800's.  I'll have to kayak out to the island with my gear, beach the kayak, suit up and dive.  One, if not both sites should produce some bottles with any luck at all.

Meanwhile I continue to tumble and clean last year's haul.

Alan
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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/23/2007 10:43:43 PM   
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Hey Allen, I"m a little familiar with the area you are diving in. I"m from the border towns of St. Stephen N.B. and Calais Maine------ N.B. side. Dug a few bottles on Deer Island and Campobello but not alot, I"m not a diver I just slog along on the surface but often wonder what treasures lie beneath these waters. I"ve been doing some research of my own on the Islands ( Indian and Trumcap) that lie inbetween Deer Island and Campobello. I think  they are visable from Eastport and maybe Lubec. There seems to be alot of history there.

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 12:06:56 AM   
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Hey Alan...

By the time I get back into the water, after my surgery, I'll tow my dive boat up your way and we can use that...
It's bigger than a kayak, more comfortable and faster too...  It holds a lot of tanks, suction dredge, lift bags, jet nozzles.. .you name it! Holds lots of bottles too.

Wayne

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 7:37:12 AM   
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Hey Allen, I"m a little familiar with the area you are diving in. I"m from the border towns of St. Stephen N.B. and Calais Maine------ N.B. side. Dug a few bottles on Deer Island and Campobello but not alot, I"m not a diver I just slog along on the surface but often wonder what treasures lie beneath these waters. I"ve been doing some research of my own on the Islands ( Indian and Trumcap) that lie inbetween Deer Island and Campobello. I think  they are visable from Eastport and maybe Lubec. There seems to be alot of history there.


We'll have to meet up some time.

I have heard that Indian Island is a very good place for bottle diving but have not had the opportunity to dive it yet.  There are also purported good bottle dive sites all the way up the St Croix from St. Andrews on north.

Alan

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 7:43:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: southern Maine diver

Hey Alan...

By the time I get back into the water, after my surgery, I'll tow my dive boat up your way and we can use that...
It's bigger than a kayak, more comfortable and faster too...  It holds a lot of tanks, suction dredge, lift bags, jet nozzles.. .you name it! Holds lots of bottles too.

Wayne


Wayne -

What kind of boat are you using?

I've found a nice size grind stone at one site but without a number of lift bags and a decent boat it's not coming up any time soon.  It's in about 40' of water at low tide and too far from my shore entry point to even think of just using a number of lift bags and head for shore.  The darn thing is probably 24" to 30" across.  Supposedly there are a number of them in the area.

A suction dredge at the old steamship pier in Eastport would be nice.  I've pretty much determined where the best areas are but the mud is thick and heavy which leaves me to slow digging or hoping someone drags an anchor or mooring to expose more stuff.

Alan

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 7:47:34 AM   
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TWIMC,

I have a saratoga I would like to have tumbled. I would be more than happy to pay someone and pick up the shipping. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Of course, I would prefer just not anyone as these are my babies.

Also, does tumboing take away the value of an antiquitie?
Ep

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 7:50:04 AM   
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How about a wench and long cable to get that grind stone out.
Ep

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 8:50:19 AM   
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TWIMC,

I have a saratoga I would like to have tumbled. I would be more than happy to pay someone and pick up the shipping. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Of course, I would prefer just not anyone as these are my babies.

Also, does tumboing take away the value of an antiquitie?
Ep


I'm fairly new to tumbling and would not want to do someone else's bottles yet.  I have used Jennrog-Collectibles at the following link in the past and they are excellent:

http://www.jennrog-collectables.com/bottle_cleaning.htm

A well tumbled bottle should increase the value of the bottle.

Alan

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 8:52:28 AM   
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How about a wench and long cable to get that grind stone out.
Ep



I do know that on the Canadian side of the bay some divers retrieved a bunch of grindstones using a winch and cable system.  These stones were found at the site of a known shipwreck and it ticked a few people off that someone recovered them.  The ones I've seen are on their own and not from any wreck site.

Alan

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 9:54:55 AM   
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I know this gets into an ethical issue but as far as I am concerned it was buried treasure. No one should get upset that someone found it or researched, financed or labored to get it back into society. That makes it the property of the beholder, in my opinon.

Particularly bottles which were discarded by the original owner. Buried treasure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ep

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 11:02:30 PM   
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Hey Alan...

I have a 22' Privateer... check it out on the thread "Who is this guy???" The opening page/thread is me and my boat. I have enough air bags to lift 20 tons if I need to so, the grinding stone is no problem at all. Put the airbags on it, get it to the surface, tow it to the boat ramp, put it on a wooden pallet and then have a wrecker or car carrier pull it up and off you go.

Would not be a problem.

I definitely want to get more "fun" diving in this year. Last year was very busy and I fell behind in work after we had all that rain in the spring. Fell about a month behind and it seemed like I was playing catch-up all year long.  I found a few nice bottles in a local area I was working, but I usually get a chance to take four or five days off to go on a Bottle Diving trip with some buddies and I was unable to do that in 2006.

I am definitely looking forward to doing it this year.  Kind of like an annual thing for me and a couple of friends.  We have a great time and usually find a lot of stuff. It'd be great to check out another area and get to know you a little better.

Wayne

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/24/2007 11:15:48 PM   
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20 Tons!!!!  You use those to get back in the boat do ya. Last time I saw the SS Minnow all I had to do to get in was to jump in the water where it was floundering. 

Hey Wayne,    Juss joshin, it is a great boat, especially when all the water is pumped out.

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/25/2007 11:50:55 AM   
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Hey Alan...

I have a 22' Privateer... check it out on the thread "Who is this guy???" The opening page/thread is me and my boat. I have enough air bags to lift 20 tons if I need to so, the grinding stone is no problem at all. Put the airbags on it, get it to the surface, tow it to the boat ramp, put it on a wooden pallet and then have a wrecker or car carrier pull it up and off you go.

Would not be a problem.

I definitely want to get more "fun" diving in this year. Last year was very busy and I fell behind in work after we had all that rain in the spring. Fell about a month behind and it seemed like I was playing catch-up all year long.  I found a few nice bottles in a local area I was working, but I usually get a chance to take four or five days off to go on a Bottle Diving trip with some buddies and I was unable to do that in 2006.

I am definitely looking forward to doing it this year.  Kind of like an annual thing for me and a couple of friends.  We have a great time and usually find a lot of stuff. It'd be great to check out another area and get to know you a little better.

Wayne


Wayne -

Nice boat!  That would do the trick.

You really need to get Downeast.  The diving and bottle hunting is spectacular.

I'm pretty sure the guy that runs the dive shop down the road from our house in Lubec would take care of hauling the grindstone.

We'll have to plan something after you heal and I'm freed up from work.

Alan

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RE: Waiting for Spring is killing me a bit. - 1/25/2007 10:37:29 PM   
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Hey Alan...

Count me in!  By then, my gills will be dry and I'll need six or eight dives to get re-acclimated to the water...

Thanks,

Wayne

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