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What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 8:58:44 PM   
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Joe and I paid a visit to a local cemetery today.  I won't elaborate until I hear others' opinions, but I think I caught something.  I kindly asked permission to take pictures, and thanked anyone present for their participation.  You will need to enlarge this picture to see it more clearly and to see that the "figure" is transparent.  Anyone with Photoshop or any other computer skills that could help out, I would really appreciate it!  Thanks.  This is the first time I have noticed anything like this.  I'm a kind of "believe it when I see it" person, but I always have hope. Will have to post in a sec so I don't time out.

Okay, I had to move this to Unexpected Discoveries.  I am having re-sizing issues.




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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:00:42 PM   
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I wish I could give you a close-up of the "figure" as I am able to do on my computer, but I don't know how.  Again, any help is greatly appreciated!  I don't even know what paranormal investigative group to send this to. Thanks.

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:12:42 PM   
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I wouldnt even know. Odd that you saw it in the daylight.
Like you I when it comes to ghosts and ghouls I am a believe it when I see it kind of person.
Although last week we went to a "haunted" monument where the single worst massacre in texas occured. Upon arriving we heard a blood curdling scream from a woman, then sounds of a hatchet hitting a tree. By the second scream we decided it was time to head out. When the driver forgot his phone and went back over to the monument to get it, he heard a baby crying in the woods, then a third scream. When he got back we all piled into the car........but it wouldnt start.   5 terrifying minutes later he got it started but as we pulled out of the place it felt like 10,000 men were pulling the car back.
Gives you something to think about.


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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:17:55 PM   
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Far R/hand corner-----looks black!!------any other shots Laur

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:33:14 PM   
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You have to enlarge it, Fred.  Joe is going to try to crop it for me.  I have one more, so far.  I still have more pics to review.  Here is the next one, an obvious face.  I will also post the full one in a sec for those who can enlarge it.






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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:36:38 PM   
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That thing looks alive Laur------i can make out facial features-----looks to be about 5ft. or so.

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:39:18 PM   
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Is that the place i told you was bad medicine?

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:39:45 PM   
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These may look like nothing to you at this size.




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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:42:38 PM   
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Fred, yes.  I don't recall the term "bad medicine, but I know you worked there.  I don't know your stories, but I know the people you told us are buried there.  Are you saying this place is unsafe?  Thanks for any input, Fred.  Maybe before we dig tomorrow, you can take a look at these pics on our computer(s) and tell me what you think (if no one has come along to enhance or enlarge these before then).

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 9:54:10 PM   
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Yes i worked there paving the road a few years back----not a fun time-----we were there until way after dark trying to finish up------we had 2-3 natives run out on us down there.We saw lights in the woods------shadow figures-----and not from our trucks either--the figures would pass by the stones.  And Old Timer said to stay out of there White or Indians----he said a few bad people are buried in there.  I am one of those people who has to see to believe -----well i have not been back since.I worked there in the 70s for the vault works-----very spooky  then.


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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 10:06:11 PM   
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Its a tough call on this one. To me it looks like a dark spot under the bushes. The way the leaves blow about and catch the light can give off different tones and sometimes give you that face in the clouds effect. for a pic like this you really need to take several pics to show the difference. I have a setting on my camera that takes 3 pics one right after the other. If you could set your camera to do the same and see the figure in one and not the other then it might show a bit more proof that something is there. I've seen to much and have pics on here myself from a cellar hole dig to say that spirits don't exist. a lot of times the pics can be disproved. My dad thought he captured a ghost on film once. Then he remembered that the milkweed fluff next to the building was blowing about. It looked really weird like a deformed figure in smoke but it was only fluff. Do you believe? Swiz







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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 10:09:10 PM   
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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 10:15:05 PM   
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You're talking about the white spot with the black eyes?

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 10:22:06 PM   
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Interesting pics, Swizzle.  I just have a Kodak Easyshare, nothing fancy.  I love photography and take a lot of pictures, but nothing like this.  It could very well be a trick of the camera, and your way is a great idea for determining what it is, if anything.  I'm just happy to hear some opinions and maybe some kind of photo expert I could send these to.  I will post the rest of the pictures, or Joe will, in a little while.  I just don't want to put any ideas in your heads of who they might be. 

Fred, that sounds very scary.  I guess I just don't see why they could hurt us if they are dead.  It is spooky, but if there are ghosts, I think God is watching out for us.  If I saw what you did, I wouldn't be going back either!  I wonder who the bad people are that the Old timer was referring too. 

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 10:36:27 PM   
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I could email the original, if you like, Swiz.  I looked at my copied version and it's so "pixelated" that it is hard to see anything.  Here's the thing, if it were just a hole in the leaves, you wouldnt be able to see through the dark shape in my first picture.  Does that make sense?

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 10:59:48 PM   
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First pic,...best as I can get it.




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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 11:06:06 PM   
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Second pic. I'm just going to add, that if Fred says it is real, well then it is real. (His experience there) No if's ands, nor buts. Period. This picture is the one that gives me the "hebe's" more than the other one. The first pic seems awfully uniform to simply be a "hole", also I'm looking at the other "holes" around it in the leaves. Anyhow, I've been pondering this pic of what looks to be a facem and It reminds me of a Seneca "false face" mask. (I think that is what they're called.) I'll see if I can find the image of one.




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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 11:10:56 PM   
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To this day, the Iroquois believe that the being protects them in times of need, redirecting fierce winds that threaten them and healing those who are ill.
Various names are used to refer to this being among the Iroquois communities. Etihsó:t Hadú⁷i⁷ (lit. 'our grandfather, he who drives it away') is used in Cayuga. Gagöhsa' (lit. 'a face') or Sagojowéhgowa: (lit. 'he defends or protects them; the Great Defender') in Seneca. Ethiso:da' 'our grandfather' in Onondaga. In English, he is most often referred to as simply false face.

Masks

The design of the masks is somewhat variable, but most share certain features. The eyes are deep-set and accented by metal. The noses are bent and crooked. The other facial features are variable. The masks are painted red and black. Most often they have pouches of tobacco tied onto the hair above their foreheads. Basswood is usually used for the masks although other types of wood are sometimes used. Horse tail hair is used for the hair, which can be black, reddish brown, brown, grey or white. Before the introduction of horses by the Europeans, corn husks and buffalo hair were used.
When making a mask, a man walks through the woods until he is moved by Hadú⁷i⁷ to carve a mask from a tree. Hadú⁷i⁷ inspires the unique elements of the mask's design and the resulting product represents the spirit himself, imbued with his powers. The masks are carved directly on the tree and only removed when completed. Masks are painted red if they were begun in the morning or black if they were begun in the afternoon. Red masks are thought to be more powerful.
Because the masks are carved into trees that are alive, they are similarly considered to be living and breathing. They are served parched whitecorn mush and given small pouches of tobacco as payment for services.

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/5/2010 11:23:51 PM   
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I hadn't realized that Laur gave no detailed explaination of where we were. It is a Seneca Nation Cemetery,which contains Seneca civil war dead...It also contains remains of Susqehannock, reported  to be over 7 feet in height with thighs as large as a european settlers chest,....as well as an Erie Indian over 300 years old, whom was found in a distant excavation and reinterred there. That is the basics as I know them.

P.S. I want to stress that we mean absolutely NO DISRESPECT to the Seneca Nation Natives, nor any of their loved ones buried here. On the contrary, we are simply interested in the local area history. Apologies if I've managed to offend anyone.

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RE: What Do You See???? - 7/6/2010 12:00:24 AM   
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Hello Lauren & Joe,

The first thing I thought when I saw the original picture was... Pennsquatch. Please key the tingly music at any time.


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