sewellbottleman
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The following comparisons can be made between E G BOOZ GVII-3, GVII-4 and the Clevenger reproductions.
With the front door facing you the following is true on original BOOZ BOTTLES.
1. The small window above the door is 1/16th of an inch from its center off center to the left of the door below.
The center of the small window above the larger window on the right side of the bottle
is 1/8th of an inch right of center to the larger window below.
On all Clevenger Straight roof versions the small windows
are slightly larger than the originals small windows.
They and are also off center more left and right on both sides than the original.
The door length and width is 1/16th longer and wider on the original.
The latch is a perfect S turned sideways centered perfectly on the original.
On the Clevenger the S is the same size and shape but is slightly favoring the right hand door
2. Now with the door facing you the right side is embossed as follows:
E. G. BOOZ'S
OLD CABIN
WHISKEY
The following are the lay out and the dimensions on the right side.
on an original the letters E. G.BOOZ'S are 3 and 1/2 inches in length
The Clevenger is 3 and 5/8ths in length with more gaps between the E. and the G.
and the two OOs are longer shaped like footballs and tighter together than the originals.
On the original the word OLD CABIN is 3 and 3/8ths inches in length.
On the Clevenger the word OLD CABIN is 3 and 1/4 inches in length.
The word WHISKEY on the original is 3 and 1/4 inches in length and has a period after it.
On the Clevenger it is slightly less than 3 inches and does not have a period after the word whiskey.
In the word OLD CABIN on the original the 2 words when reading them left to right
do not line up on the same horizontal plane.
In the word OLD the O starts dead center of the bottle and runs up hill diagonally with the L and D
The word CABIN begins again level with the O in OLD and stays level and center of the bottle.
The words OLD CABIN on the Clevenger version are actually neater
but also shorter in length than the original.
lastly :When looking at the word WHISKEY on an original left to right
The first three letters [ WHI ] are higher left to right than the letters [ SKEY ].
The letters S in whiskey is also smaller than the rest of the letters in the word.
The letter K: The top fork / of the letter K is wider on the original than on the Clevenger version.
The left most part of the letter W in the original version
is directly under the left most part of the letter O in word OLD above.
On the Clevenger version the left most part of the W lines up with the center Of the O above.
3.With the door facing you:
The left side embossed as follows :
120 WALNUT ST...
PHILADELPHIA
The numbers and letters 120 WALNUT ST...are 4 and 3/8ths inches in length.
On the Clevenger version the letters 120 WALNUT ST... are 4 and 1/16th inches in length.
The gap between the zero in 120 and the W in WALNUT ST is less on the original than the Clevenger.
On the original the word PHILADELPHIA is 4 and 3/8th inches in length.
On the Clevenger version it is 4 and 1/8th inches in length.
Lastly the two words 120 WALNUT ST.. and PHILADELPHIA are centered perfectly in the bottle on the original.
On the Clevenger 120 walnut ST is closer to (vertical gap) the word PHILADELPHIA.
4. The front roof above the door. The following embossing:
E. G. BOOZ'S
OLD CABIN
WHISKEY
All three lines of words are centered nicely on the original and not on the Clevenger.
Here is how the lines of letters should line up with each other
The first O in the word BOOZ should be in the center of the neck above.
The C in the word CABIN should be 1/32 of an inch left of,
the first O above in the word BOOZ. (basically) below it.
The letter S in the word WHISKEY
is centered directly below the C in the word CABIN above.
The first course of shingles on the bottom of the roof on the original
are larger on the left side of the roof line,
They gradually get smaller with each one as they travel to the right.
On the Clevenger they are different sizes all over the first course.
On the original from the front soffit at the gutter line up to the ridge peak is exactly 2 and 1/2 inches.
On the Clevenger this same distance is 2 and 1/4 inches.
5.The rear roof: embossed 1840.
On the original the numbers 1840 are centered horizontally,
just to the left of center by an 1/8 of an inch.
The number 4 is just to the right of center of the neck of the bottle.
On the original from the rear soffit at the gutter line
up to the ridge peak is exactly 2 and 1/2 inches.
On the clevenger version the 1840 date is centered better than on the original.
The numbers are also slightly smaller on the Clevenger version.
On the Clevenger the distance between the soffit at the gutter line
up to the ridge peak is 2 and 1/4 inches.
6.The neck:
On the original it is an of the time period applied top finished very evenly and cleanly.
On the Clevenger version they just seem to try to make
(like most of there repos) their tops to crudely and irregularly shaped.
On the original the neck begins nicely above the first O in the word BOOZ'S.
On the Clevenger version the neck actually almost always begins in the first O of the word BOOZ'S.
Also the Clevenger necks are usually 1/4 to 1/2 inch longer than the originals.
7 The base:
The base of the original should have a circular depression 2 and 1/8 inches in circumference
and a 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch depth.
Contrary to other beliefs that originals have no mold seems at the bottom,
when there are in fact faint diagonal mold seams on some of the originals.
They do not begin exactly in the corner but rather 3/8ths of an inch in from the corner,
and then run diagonally towards the opposing corner.
They are very faint and are caused by the snap case mold used to produce the bottle.
( I will upload a picture of the original snap mold used to produce all of the original BOOZ bottles.)
What I have learned concerning original BOOZ'S
Straight roof GVII-3 and the 2 beveled versions GVII-4,GVII-5
All originals should have a period after the word WHISKEY on the right side of the bottle
unless of a dirty mold or under blown bottle..
There is no period after the word WHISKEY on the front roof on any original
unless it is a bubble or mold imperfection that looks like a period .
There should always be two periods after the abbreviation of the word WALNUT ST..
unless a dirty mold or under blown bottle occurs.
None of the originals have the straight hash mark type line
under the same abbreviation ST as suggested by Mckearnin and Wilson in there American Flask book.
There can be mold seems on the bottom of the bottle caused by the snap case.
The only real differences between the three original versions are as follows:
The GVII-3 has the straight roof with an applied top, and is always amber in color either light or dark.
The straight roof is the oldest originally made in either 1859 or 1860 not 1840 as the roof suggests.
The whiskey in the bottles was probably made in 1840 and aged and then bottled in 1859 or 1860
In 1863 the Whitney plant where the bottle was made switched to the beveled roof.
This was done because the straight roof corners were breaking very easily.
The GVII-4 has the beveled roof corners with an applied top, and is always dark amber or dark olive in color
The GVII-5 has the beveled roof just like the GVII 4 but has a shorter neck and a more blob type top.
The color of this bottle can be pale green or aquamarine.
( The GVII-5 is extremely rare ) and less than 10 are known to exist.
Here is a picture of the only known E. G. BOOZ mold to exist
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