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What it is . - 3/8/2011 9:47:28 PM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline Posted one of these some time ago ,lots of ideas what is was .Bird waterer was one of the answers.I wanted to believe it was something else like a shot glass for the old crock whiskey jugs (have some with glazing inside) ,a candle holder,anything but bird waterer.The openings all seemed about the same size ,did not seem large enough to me for a bird of any size.Most waterers i had seen or found were glass and totally different shape . Attachment (1) _____________________________ Digswithstick Post #: 1

RE: What it is . - 3/8/2011 9:53:15 PM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline At antique store with mother after taking her to appointment ,saw this asked the lady if i could take picture ,"sure" she says .Mother sees  it ,decides she wants it ,and buys it .Lady  at store says she thinks these were taken into mines with a canary in them to detect dangerous levels of gas (canary would die when levels became high) giving men time to evacuate . Attachment (1) _____________________________ Digswithstick (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 2

RE: What it is . - 3/8/2011 10:00:37 PM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline We get in vehicle ,mother says " I do not want it ,birds probably died in it " Try to convince her otherwise to no avail .She says you keep it ,i think she was planning to give it to me regaurdless(sneaky)   Guess i will have to agree, bird waterer . Attachment (1) < Message edited by Digswithstick -- 3/8/2011 10:02:34 PM > _____________________________ Digswithstick (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 3

RE: What it is . - 3/8/2011 10:04:41 PM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline Can any one verify if these were type carried into mines ? Attachment (1) _____________________________ Digswithstick (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 4

RE: What it is . - 3/8/2011 10:13:22 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9807 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline Rick...interesting piece...Is that little stoneware cup what I think it is? Looks kind of familiar.... Attachment (1) _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 5

RE: What it is . - 3/8/2011 10:44:47 PM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline Yep Joe ,cage had one in it that is there now .The one in first picture (by itself) posted is dug one . _____________________________ Digswithstick (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 6

RE: What it is . - 3/8/2011 11:00:40 PM    surfaceone Posts: 7141 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline quote: Can any one verify if these were type carried into mines ? "Canary cage from a coal mine, ca. 1900. Miners observed the health of canaries to signal the presence of noxious gases before more precise measuring instruments were developed. Kentucky Historical Society Collections." From. From. From. (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 7

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 12:38:58 AM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9807 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline oops,...Rick,...somehow I missed the very top intro post...(My mouse is not right in the head since the great Coca-Cola spill of yesterday) Cool mystery solved for sure,...Also the cage is a neat and decorative item....Interesting info,...Good post. _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 8

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 7:10:26 AM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline Thanks for the verification info and pics Surfacecone,am always impressed by your research skills ! Thanks Joe ,hope your mouse has speedy recovery . _____________________________ Digswithstick (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 9

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 9:43:42 AM    Clam Posts: 883 Joined: 11/8/2008 From: Baltimore Status: offline Glad this post came up, I have always been told these were some kind of crusible for casting lead bullets which I never really believed. I have dug a few of these and now I know what they really are.... _____________________________ Ok if were gonna dig it............. were gonna dig it all the way ! (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 10

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 10:51:05 AM    surfaceone Posts: 7141 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Thanks Rick, hey Greg, I thought it might have been some sort of assayer's crucible while looking at the first picture. I gather that the technical term may also be "cupel." From. From. I've found broken examples of the cup like crucible in the vicinity of Nevada diggings. "A fascinating object and part of Dr. Ralf Pray’s assay office (see background below) during its hey day of production. Metallic particles and ore residue (imbedded in the glassy slag) gives the specimen a dark glazed look." From. From. (in reply to Clam) Post #: 11

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 1:13:58 PM    Clam Posts: 883 Joined: 11/8/2008 From: Baltimore Status: offline The one I dug is in good condition with a nice glaze on the interior so I was doubtful about it being a crucible which would have been exposed to temps in excess of 2000 F multiple times. All of the equipment I have seen used to cast bullets was cast iron with long handles which could handle temps like that almost indefinetly. < Message edited by Clam -- 3/9/2011 1:16:00 PM > _____________________________ Ok if were gonna dig it............. were gonna dig it all the way ! (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 12

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 3:39:02 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11470 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Nice German bird box Hope it didnt belong to this goon. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 3/9/2011 3:41:56 PM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to Clam) Post #: 13

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 5:58:22 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9807 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline Ive got two or three of those that I found in the basement of an old house in Pittsburgh...Please pardon my dust,...they're above the woodstove on the upper mantle....Lot's of dust and ash. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 14

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 6:28:45 PM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline Matt it has an L should H if it was the goons     Here is a few more waterers ,these ones the wife snagged and displayed.Some different sizes and some glazed inside . Attachment (1) _____________________________ Digswithstick (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 15

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 6:35:02 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9807 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline  Maybe it was an early "Luftwaffe" experiment for spy birds,...Hence the "L"? After all look what they have now. http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-02-robot-hummingbird-flight-video.html _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 16

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 6:36:24 PM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline Some more . Was going to post pic of my crucible ,but must have deleted pic and no longer have it,traded it .It had pour spouts on both sides .Posted pic on forum many moons ago but no clue how to find it .Thanks again Surf ,like them pics !   Attachment (1) _____________________________ Digswithstick (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 17

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 6:41:34 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9807 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline Rick...Cool that we now know what they were for...but I wonder why there were so many in your dump? _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 18

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 6:42:28 PM    Digswithstick Posts: 2068 Joined: 3/6/2008 From: north west pa Status: offline Those are great  ones Joe ,thanks for posting them  ! Luftwaffe ,thought about that but should have figured some one would catch it. Not sure Joe but found some coal tags in the dump ,possibly they were used for pets as well . We posted same time ,hence the multiple replies.   < Message edited by Digswithstick -- 3/9/2011 6:45:06 PM > _____________________________ Digswithstick (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 19

RE: What it is . - 3/9/2011 9:52:59 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9807 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline Rick...thanks,...Here's the link,...(To your very FIRST post)  http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-170371/mpage-1/key-crucible/tm.htm#170442 _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to Digswithstick) Post #: 20

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