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Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 8:33:54 AM    bigpuppax   Posts: 5 Joined: 12/23/2007 Status: offline Hey All - I just picked up this bottle at an upstate New York antique shop but haven't been able to find out anything about it.  Any info you can give me or point me to is enormously appreciated. Also, is there a difference between Stoneware and Earthenware?  What would be the proper term for this? Thanks! Adam Post #: 1

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 9:12:41 AM    madpaddla Posts: 2845 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: online Hello: Welcome to the forum.  Tons of nice folks here.  All the help I can provide is that I believe the glaze is called a "Mustard Glaze".  I found one which was much like yours and found some info that they were called that.  Yours looks to be an early piece.  A very nice bottle indeed.  Madpaddla _____________________________ It pays to look down. Ebay stuff http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspliffybigfeetQQhtZ-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ckIv1tiaU&feature=related (in reply to bigpuppax) Post #: 2

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 9:28:55 AM    amblypygi Posts: 454 Joined: 4/6/2004 From: Western Massachusetts Status: offline Dave Graci lists Charles Whittemore as operating in New York City from 1850-1851, so that's a nice old one. He lists several bottles including your mead. Graci doesn't list rarity, but given the brief operating time of the brewer I would assume it's not common. Sean (in reply to bigpuppax) Post #: 3

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 5:35:56 PM    stonebottle   Posts: 79 Joined: 3/10/2007 From: SE PA. Status: offline I agree, that is a very early NY city stoneware bottle.  It would be salt-glazed stoneware.  Stoneware is made of high-quality clay and is fired at a high temperature and uses a salt glaze.  Earthenware or redware usually refers to pottery made of locally-found clay that is fired at a lower temperature and is not as strong.  I also have a C. Whittemore bottle somewhat like yours but the one I have does not have the word "mead".  Whittemore was a manufacturer of Root Beer, soda water, and mineral water.   Mead was a sugary drink that probably contained around 5% alchohol.  The condition looks very good in your pictures.  Did you get it for a good price?  stonebottle (in reply to amblypygi) Post #: 4

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 5:44:50 PM    bigpuppax   Posts: 5 Joined: 12/23/2007 Status: offline I got it for $35.  I'm a pretty new collector so I don't really have a great grasp on prices, I just knew I'd never seen one before and was happy to add it to my collection. (in reply to stonebottle) Post #: 5

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 6:09:08 PM    stonebottle   Posts: 79 Joined: 3/10/2007 From: SE PA. Status: offline If it does not have any damage it is easily worth twice what you paid for it.  That is a good deal any day.  stonebottle  (in reply to bigpuppax) Post #: 6

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 6:18:19 PM    otgb   Posts: 80 Joined: 4/2/2007 Status: offline Here is my Whittemore [image][/image] [image][/image] (in reply to bigpuppax) Post #: 7

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 6:42:31 PM    stonebottle   Posts: 79 Joined: 3/10/2007 From: SE PA. Status: offline Here is my C. Whittemore.  It is shorter and bigger around than most stoneware bottles.  Only about 8.75 inches tall, holds 1 quart.  The neck is very crooked.  stonebottle Attachment (1) < Message edited by stonebottle -- 12/27/2007 7:05:33 PM > (in reply to otgb) Post #: 8

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 6:51:56 PM    otgb   Posts: 80 Joined: 4/2/2007 Status: offline no mine is 10'' tall i think it would of been used by J.Wittemore (in reply to stonebottle) Post #: 9

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 9:16:05 PM    RedGinger   Posts: 1053 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline Mead is wine made from honey.  Nice bottle. Laur (in reply to otgb) Post #: 10

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 9:55:03 PM    bigpuppax   Posts: 5 Joined: 12/23/2007 Status: offline I know it's not the same product, but I found one record of a C. Whittemore bottle sale on Kovel's. Category Bottle Pattern or Item Soda Description C. Whittemore, New York, Emerald Green, Ip, 8 1/8 In. Year 1996 Price $209.00 (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 11

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/27/2007 11:11:38 PM    RICKJJ59W Posts: 3879 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: Lehigh Valley US of A Status: offline Yes I made many a bottle of honey wine back in the day. Good STUFF. _____________________________ My web page. Dig story's published in Antique Bottle & Glass Collector. New story coming Feb & March. "Privies by the yard" www.19thcenturybottlediggers.com Digs in action. http://www.flickr.com (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 12

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/29/2007 7:35:19 AM    bottlediger Posts: 1556 Joined: 2/19/2006 From: York Pa Status: offline Is that what you call desert (sp) wine? digger ry _____________________________ Professional Tumbling Services Digger Ry Style My Tumbling Page (in reply to RICKJJ59W) Post #: 13

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/29/2007 4:40:13 PM    RedGinger   Posts: 1053 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline I didn't know people still made that, Rick lol.  I don't know if it was considered a dessert wine or what.  I'm sure it was sweet, dessert wines generally are sweeter. Has anyone found any bottles of it?  Back then, they would probably just have a few sips of some "medicine" instead lol. Laur (in reply to bottlediger) Post #: 14

RE: Whittemores Mead Stoneware/Earthenware - 12/29/2007 5:53:36 PM    bigpuppax   Posts: 5 Joined: 12/23/2007 Status: offline I've made mead (and some of its variations) and had commercially made mead before and it's pretty decent stuff (well, not the commercially made stuff, but it was clear that they were old bottles from stores that probably don't get much mead turnover).  It can be made many different ways, thought its variations all technically have different names. It can be either carbonated or flat and can be made with herbs, fruits, or spices. If you see a bottle, it's definitely worth a taste. What are your thoughts as to the bottle's worth? (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 15

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