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american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 7:30:57 PM    madpaddla Posts: 2805 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: online Looking for some info on the honey amber one.  Great bottle going from amber to honey to amber stretches in the neck but still a crown so it wont fit in the squat collection.  I forgot what layer I found this in but I dont think it is the A B Co.  Your thoughts. And much appreciated.     Ben Its the one on the right. Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 7:32:21 PM    madpaddla Posts: 2805 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: online Base.  Dont know which way to read it. Attachment (1) _____________________________ It pays to look down. Ebay stuff http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspliffybigfeetQQhtZ-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ckIv1tiaU&feature=related (in reply to madpaddla) Post #: 2

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 7:53:16 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline You would read the nine from the same base you read the A and B. That would be the center dot. They look like very nice beer bottles to me. How tall are they. They could have been a soda. I am only going by the top and my wife tells me I usually don't know what I am talking about anyway.Joel (in reply to madpaddla) Post #: 3

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 7:57:38 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Now is that called a key mold? and why? Ep (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 4

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 8:19:43 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Hey Joel, no, that is not a key mold.  A key mold is very similar to a hinge mold only there is a circle in the center of the bottle base. I'm sure I have a bottle with a key mold, and if you are still not sure what one looks like, I will be happy to put up a pic.  Kelley (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 5

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 8:22:34 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline The log cabins are key mold correct? So this one is a hinge mold? Ep (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 6

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 8:23:01 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline I mean plantation x log cabins. (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 7

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 8:39:42 PM    madpaddla Posts: 2805 Joined: 12/29/2005 From: The great state of New England Status: online Anyone know the maker on the A B one?  Great transfer of amber in it.  (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 8

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 8:50:57 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Hey Joel, here is a pic of a key mold although it isn't a very good one. The bottles in this thread are niether hinge or key mold. As for the Drakes, I can't say as I don't own one.  Kelley Attachment (1) (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 9

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 9:06:17 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Gotcha! That is what I thought it looked like. Of course, now I have to know what that bottle is you are holding. Like your name! Here is a little diddy for ya: There once was a gal named Miss Kitty, who once lived in Dodge City. Many men were willin but she saved it for Dillon, And he didn't know it! Or did he? Ep (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 10

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/8/2007 10:29:22 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline It's a USA Hosp.Dept. bottle. Thanks for the bid! PS. back at cha..... Matthew Dillon knew it for sure. But Miss Kitty was just less than pure! Though he wanted her bad, Festus cried "You Ole Cad!" Tis her Red head that brings her allure! (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 11

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 11:06:17 AM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Did you just make that up? Awsome little diddy. I thought I recognised that bottom. I have a MD USA that looks just like your med depart. It is thought perhaps, it was done toward the end of the war and used in the frontier, as the embossment is weak and none of the known Med Depart bottles are listed as mine is. I am taking some pictures of it now. There is a small circular figure at the top, on the rounded shoulder which I bleieve is either a ships navigational wheel or a poison emblem. Have you ever heard of such a thing. Any atttempts to get it pictures fails. One needs to hold it and look at it to see it. Ep Ep (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 12

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 11:11:56 AM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline "Anyone know the maker on the A B one?  Great transfer of amber in it.  " Great color and I think it is an old beer bottle. Here is a great link to bottle identification marks. It is David Whittens sight. David has done much research into identifiying marks. We, the David Whittens of the workd are writing the book on these old bottles, as the archeologists dig up bones. Ep http://www.myinsulators.com/glass-factories/bottlemarks2.html (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 13

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 11:14:25 AM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline And David gies credit to Bill Lindsey's sight. "Many bottles carry only a number (or numbers) on the base. These marks usually served as some type of mold identification, indicating a particular mold used by a glass factory. If a number of identical molds were produced for making a certain type of bottle, they would often be serially numbered (such as 1 to 12). Some numbers served as date codes, or as some other type of internal code used by the factory. In the majority of cases, bottles with only numbers on the base are difficult to attribute to a specific glassmaker, although sometimes other characteristics of a bottle will give clues to it's origin. For a very informative, comprehensive site with lots of detailed discussion on various aspects of antique bottles, their methods of manufacture, uses, and clues to dating them, I encourage you to check out Bill Lindsey's Historic Glass Bottle Identification and Information Website . His site is a "work in progress", and already has a wealth of very good information posted. " (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 14

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 11:21:13 AM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline I wonder if the chemical company bottle manufacturer also produced other bottles........ B.& A.C.CO............Baker & Adamson Chemical Company (1881-1913). Producer of acids and other chemicals. Although not the mark of a glass factory, this may be mistaken for one. Seen on the base of chemical and acid jars and bottles, most of which probably date from the early period -- 1881 to 1900. B&A was bought by General Chemical in 1900, and in 1913 General became a division of Allied Chemical & Dye Corporation, later Allied Chemical Corp. ACC merged into Allied-Signal and that company is now part of Honeywell, Inc. (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 15

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 11:56:39 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5160 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Looking at the style of the one marked A B 6 , I would guess it is foreign, possibly British. The  A B 6 seems like a mold number and/or date code.  There is a decent description of a key mold base on Odell's site. http://www.bottlebooks.com/basics.htm _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 16

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 11:59:09 AM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Hey Joel, yeah that just popped into my head. Of coarse I had consumed 2 or 6 whiskey and waters! lol!  As for your USA Med Dept bottle, I have one as well and it is the general consensus that those bottles were indeed produced for the US army just after the Civil War. They don't command as high a price as the Hosp. bottles but they sure are more elusive to get. It's a nice bottle. Kelley (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 17

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 1:16:24 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Yeah, I posted it on Ebay and placed a high reserve on it and stopped at like $77. Did they make a poison med bottle. I can see what appears to be an embossed skull and cross bones on this bottle. I am going to send out some pictures. I think i have captured it but you may need to use a little imagination. The mark is 5 O'clock under the flash burst of the picture. The scond one is 5 oclock under the bottom of hte base (outdoors behind the picture). Ep Attachment (1) (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 18

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 1:20:14 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline  2 or 6 whiskeys and water! Can you see what appears to be a poison mark. There are times when it looks like a navigational wheel on a ship. (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 19

RE: american bottle co ????? - 2/9/2007 1:25:47 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline mark 5 O'clock bottom post outside, through glass. Look hard. Ep Attachment (1) (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 20

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