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another cabin mystery? - 3/25/2005 8:58:54 PM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Here's a little gem I just picked up on ebay... It's listed in several books, but always as a whiskey, which seems strange given the name: "Smokine"... According to the wife of a relative of the importer (Andersen), this bottle held liquid smoke... Now that kind of makes sense, especially since the cabin appears to resemble a smokehouse (according to Digger O'dell)... But why would a liquid smoke be imported? Anyone? Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/25/2005 9:32:27 PM    Pettydigger Posts: 189 Joined: 1/2/2005 From: Southern Iowa Status: offline It is a whiskey bottle. Is it an ABM or BIM? (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 2

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/26/2005 4:49:15 AM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline PD... It is BIM... Do you have any references that pin it down as a whiskey? Thanks, Ron (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 3

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/26/2005 11:26:48 PM    KentOhio   Posts: 730 Joined: 9/13/2004 Status: offline The Smokine bottles are Canadian, aren't they? At least I remember reading about one being found in western Canada. (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 4

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/27/2005 8:39:35 AM    Pettydigger Posts: 189 Joined: 1/2/2005 From: Southern Iowa Status: offline Try this link about middle of page, this is all I could find so far. Josh http://www.bottlebooks.com/questions/Sept2002/september_2002_questions_ask_dig.htm (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 5

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/27/2005 10:08:16 AM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Josh... Check out Digger O'dell's web page questions answered for May, 2004, about 1/5th of the way down... Ron (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 6

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/27/2005 10:20:47 AM    lobeycat Posts: 3773 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Ronny old sock this is definitely a whiskey. I'd have to guess liquid smoke is perversion of this century. This bottle is in the $200 range, give or take. Three different embossings that I know of; Smokine - Alfred Andersen & Co Minneapolis - Winnipeg ~~ Smokine -Imported & Bottled By Alfred Andersen & Co and just Smokine. Two sizes that I know of are 5 1/4" and a 6 3/4" Rich. (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 7

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/27/2005 10:50:30 AM    woody   Posts: 1657 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: online This is from Kovel's online: Item Number Item Price bottle-whiskey1999aa477 (Whiskey) Smokine, Alfred Andersen & Co., Minneapolis, Winnipeg, Cabin, Red Amber, Pt. $195.00 (1999) bottle-whiskey1999aa476 (Whiskey) Smokine, Alfred Andersen & Co., Minneapolis, Winnipeg, Cabin, Red Amber, Pt. $165.00 (1999) bottle-whiskey1999aa478 (Whiskey) Smokine, Imported & Bottled By Alfred Andersen & Co., Log Cabin, Amber, 6 5/8 In. $100.00 (1999) _____________________________ Woody (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 8

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/27/2005 12:29:24 PM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Rickadoo... I believe the spelling is "Andresen"... I know, I misspelled it too... Go Figger... Anywhoo... Did you go check out what that Andresen relative had to say on Digger's web page? Thinkst thou she is but an agent of perversion??? Ron (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 9

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/27/2005 11:29:42 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1471 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Hi Ron , It is a Whiskey ! Several examples are listed as selling thru the big name public auction houses as a Whiskey. Cool looking cabin ! And they sell fairly cheap ( 125.00 - 200.00 range) considering that they are a cabin shaped figural Whiskey. Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 10

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 9:06:20 AM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline I still say: "That dog don't hunt!"... I tracked down an email address for Lori A. Lilja, the woman who wrote to Digger O'dell saying her husband was a descendant of Alfred Andresen, the importer of Smokine... I did a web search and eventually landed on a geneology site with a message board... However, the email address posted there for Lori was non-functional... I've posted a message there asking if anyone knows her new address...so we'll see what turns up... She stated in her post that Andresen came here from Germany, altho he's obviously Scandinavian... I feel we're close to a solution here... I'm itchy all over... Ron (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 11

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 2:23:35 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3773 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Dang I hate being wrong!! I wrote an email to Steve Ketchem a knowledgeable bottle collector specializing in whiskeys. This is his reply concerning your cabin; HI Rich, Give the lady a cigar. Alfred Andresen did in fact package a meat smoking liquid in these bottles. Someone decided it would be better to sell these at auction and elsewhere as whiskey bottles rather than as food bottles, and the misinformation has stuck. I do not know of a web site for this info, but it is well documented in our Minnesota bottle book. Also, back about 20 years ago a very good article about old Alfred was written by Minnesota collector Boyd Beccue and published in the Federation Journal. Send me an address and I will get copies of this info to you. I would welcome the chance to help clear the air on this one. Now, if we could just get folks to stop dating bottles by how many fractons of an inch a seam goes up the neck of a bottle! Steve If anyone's interested I'll forward him my address and get the info. Rich. (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 12

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 3:13:11 PM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline As you might imagine, rickadoo, I'm famishly curious... Please carry on... Oh, and by-the-by, thanks for the vindication... You're a PEACH!!! Ronny Old Sock (that "old" part really hurts...) (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 13

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 4:14:28 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1471 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline You learn something new everyday ! I had always heard that it was a whiskey , and I'm not really to knowledgable with these. But , now the name Smokine makes sense , and the value makes more sense also ! Thanks for sharing ! Brian < Message edited by BRIAN S. -- 3/28/2005 4:27:05 PM > _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 14

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 5:44:21 PM    Pettydigger Posts: 189 Joined: 1/2/2005 From: Southern Iowa Status: offline That is what's great about these internet forums, i had only seen Smokine cabin listed as a whiskey. Research has been made alot easier I guess with the internet. Oh ya, btw that is a nice bottle you got Ronny. Josh (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 15

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 7:30:39 PM    Lil   Posts: 2 Joined: 3/28/2005 Status: offline Hi Everyone- Well I love all the attention that my husbands Great Grandfather has created. Yes it is a smokine bottle and I have a copy of his catalog from 1904 that lists it. He actually had many different sizes including a brown and tan moonshine type jug that also held the smokine. We have been collecting his items over the past 8 years & I am also collecting any information anyone may have so if you have any article or any info I would greatly apreciate it. You can e-mail me at jlilja@paulbunyan.net. Becasue of the weird e-mail address many times e-mails do not go through because systems think it is a spam address. Oh well..price I pay for living in northern Minnesota! I too collect antique bottles but mostly for show in my overly antique filled house! If anyone needs more information or would like a copy of the catalog with the bottles listed, please let me know. If anyone has Alfred Andresen items for sale...please let me know!!! Thanks guys Lil (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 16

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 7:55:40 PM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Thanks, PD... But only Rickadoodoo is allowed to call me "Ronny"... And besides, it's Ronnie... Thanks for your email and post, Lil... I'll keep my eyes out for another Smokine for ya... Ron PS Regards to your cousin Ron! Attachment (1) (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 17

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 8:06:15 PM    Pettydigger Posts: 189 Joined: 1/2/2005 From: Southern Iowa Status: offline Sorry RONNIE, if I screw up that bad again I will leave the forum. Did not want to offend you or anyone else (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 18

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 8:14:11 PM    bearswede Posts: 2909 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline G's, Petty... I was yust yoshin' widja... No need ta get all riled up... But I do prefer Ron, if it's all the same... Ron (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 19

RE: another cabin mystery? - 3/28/2005 8:26:31 PM    Pettydigger Posts: 189 Joined: 1/2/2005 From: Southern Iowa Status: offline Sorry Ron, I am still new to these forum things. Can't tell if your pissed or just joshin' me Josh (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 20

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