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broach/ pin - 3/13/2008 1:36:03 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2166 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: online hi everyone,  dug this last tues., tried to  clean it some.  the flower part is a sep piece of metal, silver.  the back was probaley silver coated.  the flowers part looks like it could have been pored into a mold.  did the do this with silver?  size 3" x 2 1/4".  any help on this would be greatley appreciated.   thanks for looking.  rhona Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: broach/ pin - 3/13/2008 4:04:49 PM    capsoda Posts: 7703 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Rhona, Could you gat a pic from a side angle and of the back? _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 2

RE: broach/ pin - 3/13/2008 10:17:42 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2166 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: online hi warren,  thanks so much for replying. i got the best pic. i could.  at sometime someone tried to repair the hinge? in the back with a stright pin.  would love to find out about this piece.  thanks  rhona Attachment (1) (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 3

RE: broach/ pin - 3/13/2008 10:19:05 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2166 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: online norrow side Attachment (1) (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 4

RE: broach/ pin - 3/13/2008 10:20:45 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2166 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: online wide side, hope this helps. Attachment (1) (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 5

RE: broach/ pin - 3/14/2008 2:17:24 AM    capsoda Posts: 7703 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Made from a ladies belt buckle. The hook in the center is a little bent. It had a little dangle on the hook that was held in place by the blouse after it was pined on. The dangle could be changed the to make brooch was versatile. Very commom in the second half of the 1800s. Polish it up and it will look new again. The back ground may not have been plated. Brass jewelry was alot more popular than most folks think. The poorer classes had to fend for themselves as far as jewelry went back then. < Message edited by capsoda -- 3/14/2008 2:19:39 AM > _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 6

RE: broach/ pin - 3/14/2008 11:38:29 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2166 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: online hi warren,  thanks for the information.  i still not sure how it was used for a belt buckle,  i can't evision the dangle thing.   i know the pin has to rest on the hook in order to latch. thanks again,   rhona (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 7

RE: broach/ pin - 3/15/2008 1:15:05 AM    capsoda Posts: 7703 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Look at the side view. The bar sticking out from the end to form the hook is the tounge of the buckle. The hook end was looped back on itself to form a circle. It would wrap around a bar that went from side to side. Look at you hubbies belt buckle. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 8

RE: broach/ pin - 3/16/2008 10:36:22 PM    privvydigger   Posts: 450 Joined: 7/16/2006 From: Heart of the Coal Regions Status: offline I thought it was a broach and the hook was for a fresh flower! Belt buckle pinned seems a stretch.  I think I have one I'll look privvydigger _____________________________ gtr'dug (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 9

RE: broach/ pin - 3/16/2008 10:42:17 PM    privvydigger   Posts: 450 Joined: 7/16/2006 From: Heart of the Coal Regions Status: offline Found it! This is the one I found the metal part would be hinged if it was meant to move back and forth, otherwise it would snap I'm sure. Attachment (1) _____________________________ gtr'dug (in reply to privvydigger) Post #: 10

RE: broach/ pin - 3/16/2008 10:43:19 PM    privvydigger   Posts: 450 Joined: 7/16/2006 From: Heart of the Coal Regions Status: offline the back as always pure conjecture enjoy privvydigger Attachment (1) _____________________________ gtr'dug (in reply to privvydigger) Post #: 11

RE: broach/ pin - 3/16/2008 11:18:08 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2166 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: online hi warren and privvydigger,  thanks for looking.  really appreciated you takeing the time to find yours and posting a pic..  i had thought about the hook holding flowers also. neat that yours has flowers on the back also.  any ideal of age on yours?  thanks again so much,   rhona (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 12

RE: broach/ pin - 3/17/2008 12:09:57 AM    capsoda Posts: 7703 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Yep, yours is a brooch and looks like about 1920 or so but Rhona's brooch/buckle is late 1800s and the findings on the back (pin, hinge and catch) are 20th century add ons. Take it from a retired jeweler who has worked on hundreds of pieces of antique jewelry. I now only do jewelry that is turned down buy jewelry shops like beyond repair items. I gotta stay sharp ya know. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 13

RE: broach/ pin - 3/17/2008 1:10:41 PM    towhead Posts: 883 Joined: 12/31/2004 Status: offline To be exact, Sash pin!    Look here:  (7th one down and a couple others) http://pages.rememberwhenvintage.com/178/InventoryPage/1305894/1.html < Message edited by towhead -- 3/17/2008 1:11:51 PM > _____________________________ J (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 14

RE: broach/ pin - 3/17/2008 10:46:22 PM    Insulators Rule!   Posts: 280 Joined: 8/30/2004 From: Strathroy, Ontario, Canada Status: online Warren, I have a very beat up mens 18 karat gold ring that I want to get repaired. It is missing the stone, and im thinking about just putting something fake in it. I will try and get a picture up and have your thoughts on the piece. Kyle _____________________________ Kyle Collector of Insulators, Ontario marked bottles, railway memorabilia and signs of all sorts (in reply to towhead) Post #: 15

RE: broach/ pin - 3/17/2008 10:59:25 PM    Insulators Rule!   Posts: 280 Joined: 8/30/2004 From: Strathroy, Ontario, Canada Status: online OK Warren, here is is. Don;t say I never said it was "beat up". Came out of a 1950s pit that I dug a few years back when I was just getting started. I didnt think it would be real gold, and if it was, I figured it would be crappy quality, but I am told its 18 karat. Dont know if thats true. Looking at the marking, it looks like it says 10K on the inside...lol. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Kyle Collector of Insulators, Ontario marked bottles, railway memorabilia and signs of all sorts (in reply to Insulators Rule!) Post #: 16

RE: broach/ pin - 3/18/2008 1:10:06 AM    capsoda Posts: 7703 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Ok sash pin but this perticular one resimbles a small belt buckle and I have never seen a brass and silver sash pin. I would hang onto it Rhona. Pree 1900 costume jewelry in some cases is worth than precious metal jewelry and I have been working on jewelry for a very long time. I have seen silver and gold plated pins but they were usually made around 1910 until about 1930. Hey Kyle, It will say 18k on the inside of the band if it is. If it says 10k then it is 10k unless it came from Mexico then it is 6k maybe no matter what it says. It is not all that bad. I have repaired alot worse and usually the client just couldn't imagine how it got skwished under that car tire. Usually they claim that they put it on the dresser and when the came back.....walah.... it was mutilated. Don't know why they can't just tell you "I lost it and found it when I ran over it". If you want it back like new email me. < Message edited by capsoda -- 3/18/2008 1:14:26 AM > _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Insulators Rule!) Post #: 17

RE: broach/ pin - 3/18/2008 11:31:02 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2166 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: online hi julie and warren,  julie, that link was fantastic.  thank you so much.  warren i think i will keep it.  dont' dig something like that to often.   thanks,  rhona (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 18

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