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charles culden /gulden? new york

anyone have any idea what this bottle is? its one of my favorites for some reason, and i haven't gotten any info on it anywhere else.. embossed charles culden or gulden new york on the bottom.. 2 prominent seams, but also has dots opposite the seams had a label around the neck, part of it is there.. the lip is really messed up as in out of shape/ crude..lots of air bubbles too.. thanks guys...

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 08:42:53 (permalink)
    pic of the bottom. appears to have an over flow of glass around part of the neck too..

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 09:22:21 (permalink)
    Hi Mike, I believe that is a early mustard, yes they do have a crude lip! My example is a sun colored amethyst I dont believe they would go for more then est. guess $10 but I could be wrong. They have a 12" version listed in ketchup, pickles and sauces in Betty Zumwalts book as rare. I think these versions are fairly common though. Hope this helps ya... Taz

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 09:24:55 (permalink)
    They are a nice addition if you are collecting pickles and sauce type bottles.... Here is the lip on mine..

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 10:00:56 (permalink)
    Hey Taz ... Wfocatman...

    Here are some photos of the Charles Guldens Capers bottle I found in Conn.

    I posted it once before, but I wanted to brag a little more, you know how I am...

    Wayne

    This is how it was found...

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 10:02:31 (permalink)
    This is after all the river scum was cleaned off it...

    Can't wait to get back there this year.

    Wayne

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 10:42:02 (permalink)
    OOlala! That sure is a pretty one! Wayne that one is rated as scarce 500 or less known specimens..... Taz
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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 13:11:29 (permalink)
    Hey Taz...

    Where did you find the info on this one? Was it in a book? What's the name & author? Is it available to buy? Who sells it? Can you put some pics up of the book? Where can I find one? How much are they? Only a few questions for you...

    Wayne
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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 13:51:05 (permalink)
    taz.. how do you get such good pictures?..
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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 15:55:24 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: southern Maine diver

    ... What's the name & author? Is it available to buy? Who sells it? Can you put some pics up of the book? Where can I find one? How much are they?



    Hey Wayne,

    It was probably: Zumwalt, Betty. 1980. Ketchup, Pickles, and Sauces; 19th Century Food in Glass.

    You can find a couple of copies on www.bookfinder.com right now but they're over-priced. Search around and you should be able to find one for $20-25. They come up on fleabay every once in a while.

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 18:43:31 (permalink)
    Hey Sean....

    Thanks for the info. Warren and I looked for you at the bottle show. I don't know how we missed you, but we sure wanted to hook up with you. I'm glad you enjoyed your stay and that you had a nice, romantic dinner at Rosa's in Portsmouth. Would like to meet with you cause I wanted to exchange some ideas on dive sites and the Conn River, or places to dive in Western Mass.

    Give me a PM or E-mail me and I'll try to set something up with you for a dive. I just picked up a newer van, a new boat trailer so I'll be able to tow my dive-boat just about anywhere.

    Thanks again for the info,

    Wayne
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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 19:22:37 (permalink)
    Heres a different style...its patent date dec. 25, 1894..it has a pink tint to glass.

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/07 19:23:38 (permalink)
    Base pic

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/08 01:57:42 (permalink)
    hey guys nice bottles!! great pix also, here are 3 guldens ive found, thanks for sharing mike

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/09 11:09:04 (permalink)
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    Hey Sean....

    Thanks for the info. Warren and I looked for you at the bottle show. I don't know how we missed you, but we sure wanted to hook up with you. I'm glad you enjoyed your stay and that you had a nice, romantic dinner at Rosa's in Portsmouth. Would like to meet with you cause I wanted to exchange some ideas on dive sites and the Conn River, or places to dive in Western Mass.

    Give me a PM or E-mail me and I'll try to set something up with you for a dive. I just picked up a newer van, a new boat trailer so I'll be able to tow my dive-boat just about anywhere.

    Thanks again for the info,

    Wayne


    Hey Wayne,

    Yeah, I was sorry to miss you guys too. My fault though, we only stayed about an hour and then headed back west. I had budgeted that day to upgrade my electrical service so I had to make sure I had 5 or 6 hours of daylight to play with. I will PM you about diving, I'm dying to get back in the water and I have some non-bottle related questions for you too, especially if you've done any exploring in the Merrimack, which I imagine you must have.

    I'm going to post a note about the electrical service in Collectors Chat, I've discovered a scam by the square-d company that equates to a fantastic deal for people who know how to get around the scam part of it...

    Sean
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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2006/04/09 21:37:50 (permalink)
    Hey Sean...

    Thanks for getting back to me... we really wanted to hook up with you an share a drink or two... Sorry that we missed you.

    I took a look at the web site that you sent me. I have seen some of the layered clay and the tubes that you described, but I have not seen them in the Merrimac River. I will be doing more dives in the Merrimac this year, so I will fill you in as to what I observe. Let me know what you are looking for and I will pass it on to you.

    Great chatting with you,

    Wayne
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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2013/04/16 14:53:18 (permalink)
    I found this one today. Going by the seem it was made between 1860-1880. The company started in 1862 maybe it's one of the first? It's a light pink color.

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2013/04/16 14:54:00 (permalink)
    Here's a shot of the seem.

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2013/04/16 14:55:11 (permalink)
    And the bottom. It says 2 & 4 with two dots under it.

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    RE: charles culden /gulden? new york 2013/04/17 07:28:52 (permalink)
    Hey folks, Mike, Taz, et al ... I have examples of Chas Gulden's too they seam to be like bromos in the new York area. I have found the one mike first posted with some awful decomposed olives in it.
    Fred

    Always looking for N.J. bottles! Soda & beer Hutch's and blob tops, slugplated whiskey/liquor flasks and cures.
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