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codd tumbling? - 8/19/2003 8:03:38 AM    lost marble   Posts: 8 Joined: 8/19/2003 Status: offline Anybody successfully tumbled a British Codd bottle? Are there any problems with the marble chamber clogging with copper, particularly with the small sized (6oz) or narrow neck Codds? Post #: 1

RE: codd tumbling? - 8/19/2003 11:23:04 AM    Guest i would secure the marble so it dosent move before tumbling. or pull the rubber seal and remove the marble. rubber could be brittle look for cracking in the rubber. it might not come out in one piece. diggerjeff (in reply to lost marble)   Post #: 2

RE: codd tumbling? - 8/19/2003 11:31:13 AM    lost marble   Posts: 8 Joined: 8/19/2003 Status: offline sorry Jeff but the marbles don' t come out of these bottles even with the rubber removed! I was wondering about using some sort of oil (or something thicker than water) inside the bottle to slow the movement of the marble? but would the tumbling action then fail? (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 3

RE: codd tumbling? - 8/19/2003 12:09:03 PM    Guest reason i said that is because i have a codd without the marble or rubber. i assumed that they all came out .although i have never tried to remove one. and if that is the case i cant figure out how this one got in this condition. still i dont think i would let the marble tumble loose. let us know how you solve this problem. diggerjeff (in reply to lost marble)   Post #: 4

RE: codd tumbling? - 8/19/2003 4:43:07 PM    lost marble   Posts: 8 Joined: 8/19/2003 Status: offline Your Codd probably had a wooden stopper (with a rubber washer around the stopper) instead of a glass marble, not certain but I think there' s a slight difference with the inner lip. If I' m right your' s should have just a single ledge inside for the washer to press against whereas the glass marble type would have a groove inside the lip to hold the washer. (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 5

RE: codd tumbling? - 8/19/2003 5:31:20 PM    Guest thanks for the info. i learned something new today. diggerjeff (in reply to lost marble)   Post #: 6

RE: codd tumbling? - 8/19/2003 8:11:36 PM    wvbottlehead Posts: 220 Joined: 7/4/2003 From: WV Status: offline you should be able to safely tumble your bottle with the marbles inside, but only at a slow speed, 20-25 rpm' s & be careful not to add too much copper - you don' t want to fill the neck, just enough to barely cover the bottom when the bottle is lying down. < Message edited by wvbottlehead -- 8/19/2003 8:17:17 PM > (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 7

RE: codd tumbling? - 10/17/2003 1:50:39 PM    Pontiled   Posts: 411 Joined: 8/27/2003 Status: offline I have successfully these by inserting pieces of Styrafoam worms (package shipoping pieces) to keep the marble from moving. Make sure the bottle is HALF full of copper, water, and polishing compound, and then make to marble immovable. Tumble at slow speed for 3 days. Then pull the bottle and turn it around on the tumbler and also pull the packaging material and have the marble shift to the other side and re-pack. Run for 3 days. Yeah, I know it's an added step, but it also removes the marks from the base caused by the fingers in the machine. On better bottles, the added time is well worth it. _____________________________ Mike Russell Author of: The Collector's Guide to Civil War Period Bottles and Jars -- Third Edition (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 8

RE: codd tumbling? - 10/20/2003 11:23:55 AM    lost marble   Posts: 8 Joined: 8/19/2003 Status: offline Thanks Mike, I've just build myself a garden shed/bottle room so a tumbler is going to be my winter project. Watch this space! I don't suppose you have any before/after tumbling shots of a codd? (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 9

RE: codd tumbling? - 10/20/2003 12:27:44 PM    Pontiled   Posts: 411 Joined: 8/27/2003 Status: offline Sorry, I wish I knew where there are, but I have thousands of bottle pics that still need to be cataloged and I really don't know exactly where they would be (still recovwering from a stroke, so it would be very difficult right now). Take the 3-day + 3-day process and see how the bottle goes. I wouldn't polish for any more days as they would begin to look "over cleaned." Let us know how things go! _____________________________ Mike Russell Author of: The Collector's Guide to Civil War Period Bottles and Jars -- Third Edition (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 10

RE: codd tumbling? - 10/23/2003 3:38:31 AM    lost marble   Posts: 8 Joined: 8/19/2003 Status: offline Mike, thanks again for your tips about codd tumbling, I will keep you posted on my bottle tumbling project. I'm interested to know why you immobilised the marble, was it through an actual breakage or an expected one? All the best for a speedy recovery. Darren (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 11

RE: codd tumbling? - 10/23/2003 11:13:37 AM    Pontiled   Posts: 411 Joined: 8/27/2003 Status: offline Hi Darren, Thanks for the well wishes, I'm recovering, but it takes so long! I'm waiting to hit the sites and dig again! Actually, I just don't have any confidence in anything moving in a bottle, except for the compound, especially the antique bottles. Motion creates some heat, but it can add to stress at the ends of the motion points, and you can never tell if the bottle has stress in the glass if it's the least bit hazy. It's just that I prefer to be on the quote: safe side. In cleaning more than a thousand bottles, I've had two that cracked and, upon later examination, you could see where the glass had been stressed. The crack started on the stress points. Mike (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 12

RE: codd tumbling? - 10/23/2003 11:14:59 AM    Pontiled   Posts: 411 Joined: 8/27/2003 Status: offline Sorry about that! I used the quote command instead of qoutation marks! Mike (in reply to lost marble) Post #: 13

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