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collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 6:54:00 PM    Kurt   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/25/2010 Status: offline In the past 25 years of digging sewers for repairs, I have gathered several hundred old bottles that I mostly keep in garbage cans - 11 of them. The wife is now after me to throw them out as worthless junk, except for a few I have set aside. I know exactly zero about old glass except that it looks really cool. Does anyone know of a club, or some resources in the Seattle area where I could learn more about these? Most of these are from All over Alaska & Washington states, with a few from the Catskills, NY, and Kemah texas. I figure if I can show that only some of it is junk she will leave me alone. I do tend to save everything I find, but isn`t that what we do ? I tried enclosing a couple of pictures of my "collection" to prove I am not a garbage collector, but I get a file too large message and I do not know how to change it. Thanks, Kurt Post #: 1

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 7:23:43 PM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2801 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline Someone tell this nice new member how to resize the pictures of his hoard! I'm excited, but not good at explaining. (Lobey?) _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to Kurt) Post #: 2

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 7:35:54 PM    swizzle Posts: 3596 Joined: 3/2/2005 From: Upstate NY Status: offline I usually use Photobucket to post multiple pics on here. it can be a pain. Other members have other methods to resizing pics. Tell your wife to hold her horses for a second or two. Some bottles can be quite valuable. I've sold a few for over $100 and now have one in my collection that's worth $300+. Most bottles will be in the $0.25 to $5 range. I recently dug a $50 to $80 bitters bottle as well. With 11 garbage cans full your bound to have a few sleepers in there that are worth something. Even the worthless ones are good for something if nothing more then target practice.  Swiz (in reply to pyshodoodle) Post #: 3

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 8:28:19 PM    jays emporium Posts: 1538 Joined: 12/18/2006 From: Victoria, Texas Status: online DON'T THROW THEM OUT YET.  Since the bottles come from  multiple sites it is very likely that some of them will be old and possibly valuable while others are newer and completely worthless.  The trick is figuring out which is which.  If you can figure out how to resize your pictures the people on this forum can be of great help with information on your bottles age and values.  I have a Photostudio program that allows me to crop and resize pictures to get them small enough to post here.  It took me awhile to figure out how to do it but really it was easy. Please keep us informed.  If I wasn't 2000 miles away I'd drive over and go through them with you. Jay (in reply to swizzle) Post #: 4

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 8:35:03 PM    Kurt   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/25/2010 Status: offline Thanks for all the input. i will try to get these resized and post them. (in reply to jays emporium) Post #: 5

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 8:43:40 PM    peejrey   Posts: 1608 Joined: 7/4/2010 From: Hickman TN Status: offline Do you have I-photo? _____________________________ ___Preston J. Reyome___ ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Collector of Tennessee Bottle and Labeled Medicines (in reply to Kurt) Post #: 6

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 9:29:14 PM    RED Matthews Posts: 2396 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: offline Hello Kurt;  I use a free picture handling software called 'Irfanview' it works great for everything and is fairly easy to use for resizing. Regarding your bottles, the most important things to learn about are pontil marks (the blow pipe - tube pontil marks), which have left an open tube of glass from the blowing of the previous blown bottle that was left on the previous blow pipe.  From there the marks left by the use of an iron punty or puntee rod, which was coated with sticky dirt, red lead, graphite paste. and/or white lead paste, and then powdered glass, iron powder from mold shop machining, or sand that would stick to the glass product to let that punty rod be the handle for finishing the top of the bottle with applied glass.  Looking at the bottoms of you bottles you should learn to recognize those marks. The next thing is to look at the top of the bottle.  If the mold seam comes up over the finish on the bottle - it is good for recycling unless it has some unique characteristics. If there are horizontal tool marks from the shaping of the finish they are keepers,  if there is extra sloppy glass below the finish that was pushed down and left there - they are keepers.  The quality of embossing that was hand cut in the molds that you can realize are crude and unique should be saved,  embossing that is in a slug plate oval or round ring enclosure should be evaluated.  Lettering that has little dots from a venting drilled hold should be evaluated.  There are certain types of bottles that should be set aside - and I can't take the time to list them here.  Good luck checking them out.  If you want to question me more - send me an email. RED Matthews _____________________________ http://www.bottlemysteries.com/welcome/ (in reply to peejrey) Post #: 7

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 11:01:01 PM    deacon_frost Posts: 427 Joined: 11/9/2008 From: Boonville Missouri Status: offline sent you a email about resizing _____________________________ Looking for anything from Boonville Missouri (in reply to RED Matthews) Post #: 8

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/25/2010 11:11:00 PM    Kurt   Posts: 6 Joined: 7/25/2010 Status: offline Thank all of you very much. I never expected such a response. I ahve sent the pics to Brian to resize and he will hopefully post them. I actually like all the ones I saved regardless of value, though value would go a long way to ending the argument I am having. Thanks again.  Kurt (in reply to deacon_frost) Post #: 9

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 12:19:37 AM    deacon_frost Posts: 427 Joined: 11/9/2008 From: Boonville Missouri Status: offline here ya go Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for anything from Boonville Missouri (in reply to Kurt) Post #: 10

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 12:20:47 AM    deacon_frost Posts: 427 Joined: 11/9/2008 From: Boonville Missouri Status: offline more Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for anything from Boonville Missouri (in reply to deacon_frost) Post #: 11

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 12:22:38 AM    deacon_frost Posts: 427 Joined: 11/9/2008 From: Boonville Missouri Status: offline another Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for anything from Boonville Missouri (in reply to deacon_frost) Post #: 12

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 12:23:25 AM    deacon_frost Posts: 427 Joined: 11/9/2008 From: Boonville Missouri Status: offline more Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for anything from Boonville Missouri (in reply to deacon_frost) Post #: 13

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 12:24:16 AM    deacon_frost Posts: 427 Joined: 11/9/2008 From: Boonville Missouri Status: offline more Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for anything from Boonville Missouri (in reply to deacon_frost) Post #: 14

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 12:25:10 AM    deacon_frost Posts: 427 Joined: 11/9/2008 From: Boonville Missouri Status: offline more Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for anything from Boonville Missouri (in reply to deacon_frost) Post #: 15

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 12:26:15 AM    deacon_frost Posts: 427 Joined: 11/9/2008 From: Boonville Missouri Status: offline last one Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for anything from Boonville Missouri (in reply to deacon_frost) Post #: 16

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 12:38:53 AM    Nickevlau   Posts: 191 Joined: 4/11/2010 From: Minneapolis, MN Status: offline Wow! In the first cabinet shot I don't see much I would use for target practice.  It is my understanding that the baby top milk bottle was originally never made in cobalt blue.  So I would question that and the pink to be possible reproductions.  A couple of screw tops in the upper left, usually not valuable but depending on the embossing fun to look at.  I would tend to keep all with embossing,  There are some common embossed bottles, a thread (which I cant find) had a list of the ten most common bottle. < Message edited by Nickevlau -- 7/26/2010 12:41:23 AM > _____________________________ Looking for Minneapolis / St Paul or Minnesota bottles of course (in reply to deacon_frost) Post #: 17

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 1:26:49 AM    photolitherland   Posts: 313 Joined: 6/20/2009 From: Russellville, Arkansas Status: offline Hmmm, I remember that list, the only two I remember were Ponds Extract and California Fig Company bottles. Nice stuff in the cabinets, Id keep almost all of that, but a lot of the bottles in the bins arent worth anything. Heres an awesome resource if you dont know much about bottles. http://www.sha.org/bottle/index.htm _____________________________ I see a mansard roof through the trees, the ground beneath my feet, it has garbage and concrete. (in reply to Nickevlau) Post #: 18

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 9:47:47 AM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2801 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline It looks like you've pretty much already figured out which are "keepers" on your own. Did you find the cobalt babyface milk or buy it? Cuz I've always heard they were reproductions also. A real milk bottle of that style should have a little ledge on the inside below the lip for the milk cap to sit on. As far as the garbage cans full. the jars are mostly common but aren't worthless. At least a buck or two, maybe a little more... unless there is something unusual about them. Since you have so many, you could probably line them up and compare and ask about anything that is not the same as the others. If you have any that are not clear or aqua, ask about those also. The jars appeal to people that aren't bottle/jar people... they like the retro ... and they are great for storing stuff like marbles/buttons, etc. People just like them and buy them if cheap. You've come to the right place for help, and you are going to need to take more pictures of the stuff in the cabinets!!!!!! Also pick through the garbage cans and ask questions about the ones you find more interesting than others... I see a few I'm curious about. _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to photolitherland) Post #: 19

RE: collector or hoarder ? - 7/26/2010 9:53:11 AM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2801 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline Let's start with this one.... it pops out like a thumb with a felon (aka sore thumb) Attachment (1) _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to pyshodoodle) Post #: 20

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