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dont know maybe someone does - 2/2/2012 12:45:53 PM   
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its a very dark green no markings except wats on the bottom




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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/2/2012 12:46:37 PM   
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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/2/2012 1:10:00 PM   
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wats on the bottom




Hey Randy,

Looks like an early machine suction scar and a "something", a "5," and an "X" to me.

May I suggest more bottle, less background, in those profile pictures.

Have you visited http://www.sha.org/bottle/ yet? It's a great site for anyone trying to learn about bottles, and was created by one of our members.


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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/2/2012 1:33:15 PM   
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Rowan ~

I could be wrong, but both the bottle and the marks on the base kind of look foreign to me. And when I say "foreign" I mean Great Britian or some place like that. I have Julian Toulouse's 1972 edition book, but so far have not found anything in it among the hundreds of glass makers marks that look anything like yours. But I'm sure someone will come along soon that will recognize it.

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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/2/2012 1:36:12 PM   
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Does it have an "Applied" closure/top?  If it is applied, it should have what I call "drip glass" around the base of the top. Most, if not all applied crowns are foreign.

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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/2/2012 1:56:40 PM   
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Most, if not all applied crowns are foreign.


Hey Bob,

It does look rather British to me as well. I would argue that "Most" or "many" applied crowns are foreign, "not all." The "X" marks the spot...

"Mouth-blown, true applied crown finish closure bottles are very uncommon and then usually of foreign manufacture (empirical observations). Mouth-blown, tooled crown finish bottles date from 1894 to about 1914-1915, when machine-made manufacture of soda and beer bottles was almost complete in the U. S. (Lockhart pers. comm. 2003). In Canada, it appears that at least mouth-blown soda bottles with tooled crown finishes were being made until at least the late 1910s (Axelson 2000). The crown finish pictured to the right is a tooled example that dates from around 1910-1915. Machine-made crown finish bottles all date after 1905 when the first license for soda and beer bottles was issued for the Owens Automatic Bottle Machine, although most Owens produced soda/beer bottles post-date about 1910 due to the relatively slow implementation of these expensive machines (Axelson 2000; Miller & McNichol 2002). The semi-automatic machine production of narrow necked bottles was not significant until after about 1910 making machine-made, non-suction scarred (non-Owens machine) crown finish bottles likely to date no earlier than the early 1910s (Barnett 1926; Axelson 2000; Lockhart pers. comm. 2004)." From.


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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/2/2012 4:18:45 PM   
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....and Tod marks a coupla' early applied crowns:

From.

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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/8/2012 1:08:47 AM   
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looks like apollonaris bottle that is an early machine made bottle scar 1910 vintage

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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/8/2012 2:21:17 AM   
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Here's Rowan's bottle ...




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RE: dont know maybe someone does - 2/8/2012 2:23:44 AM   
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And here's a typical Apollinaris mineral water bottle ... (Which look similar to me).




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