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evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/4/2006 10:48:20 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5157 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Phillips milk of magnesia was apparently made over quite a long period. Does anyone know what the earliest bottles looked like. The one I have pictured here seems to be the earliest one I have. It is very light blue with a fairly large tooled lip. It is embossed PHILLIPS' MILK OF (trade mark) MAGNESIA. Below magnesia there is a word that is peened out of the mold. I think it originally read REGISTERED but is peened out pretty well. Anyone found any Phillips that seem older than this one? Attachment (1) _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg Post #: 1

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/4/2006 10:57:45 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5157 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline According to some info on the web ... Phillips invented milk of magnesia in 1873 Phillips started selling it in 1880 The Phillips company was incorporated in 1885 They were aquired by Sterling Drug in 1923 Phillips' Milk of Magnesia was bottled up until 1976 A 100 year product run is pretty amazing... < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 6/4/2006 10:58:55 PM > _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 2

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 1:26:39 AM    madman   Posts: 4860 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline hello gh, this is a great post for people to post there milk of magnesia bottles, your bottle is the oldest ive seen,  my bottles read pat aug 21 1906, your bottle is from 1906?  heres some newer and old  mike Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 3

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 1:29:28 AM    madman   Posts: 4860 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline this one is bim Attachment (1) (in reply to madman) Post #: 4

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 1:32:39 AM    madman   Posts: 4860 Joined: 2/5/2005 Status: offline newer Attachment (1) (in reply to madman) Post #: 5

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 8:23:26 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5157 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I'm guessing the earliest ones just said REGISTERED or PAT APPLIED FOR at the bottom. The one I posted was possibly when they got the patent and they peened out the registered, still using the old mold. Then they re-designed the mold in 1906 to show the patent info. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to madman) Post #: 6

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 6:39:40 PM    Ye Olde Prospector   Posts: 614 Joined: 1/23/2005 From: Bath, Maine Status: offline Hi Matt, Here's the earliest Phillips I have dug. Strap sided, aqua BIM with tooled lip, 6 1/8 in tall..Embossed  C.H. PHILLIPS / NEW YORK PATENTED / APRIL 29th & JULY 22nd / 1873  That's the info peened out on the one you have, Still don't know if it would be worth cleaning though. Base is plain. Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 7

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 6:55:51 PM    mabel   Posts: 22 Joined: 5/28/2004 Status: offline This is great!!  You are talking about my area of interest.  I collect Phillips Milk of Magnesia bottles. I am probably the only person to be interested in these common bottles.  I have tried to find the oldest examples that were made. I have 3 bottles with a date of 1873.  One clear bottle and one light blue bottle, both about 7 inches tall:"CH Phillips  New York  patented April 29 and July 22 1873".  An ice blue bottle "Phillips Milk of Magnesia  patented April 29 and July 22 1873".  I will post photos of my collection later tonight. I have about 90 Phillips bottles, ranging from 3 inches to 14 inches.  The oldest ones are clear or light blue and say "New York." More recent bottles say "Glenbrook Connecticut" and are darker cobalt blue.  I have 2 bottles from New Zealand with odd metal flip-top lids.  I have several printed in Spanish. There are amber brown bottles that say "Phillips cod liver oil  NewYork" but I am not sure if this is the same company. Thank you for letting me ramble on.  I rarely have a chance to talk about my bottles.  Mabel (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 8

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 6:56:42 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5157 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline That's definately an early bottle from Phillips. I would guess its milk of magnesia even though it does say it. It looks like it lists the original patent date for milk of magnesia. Mine is a totally different mold since it does say Milk of Magnesia. Mine has one line of text peened out. It either said PATENTED or REGISTERED. I think yours is the earliest I have seen so far. Hi Mabel, I figured SOMEBODY out there collected these durn things. Do you know what the peened out embossing on the one I posted originally read? From what I can tell Phillips cod liver oil was made by the same company and competed with Scotts emulsion. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 6/5/2006 7:08:12 PM > _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to Ye Olde Prospector) Post #: 9

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 9:06:20 PM    Mike O Posts: 480 Joined: 12/26/2005 Status: offline Here is a small and a medium one that I have found.  They both have the same inscription "Rec'd in US Pat. Office AUG 21 1906 but are very different colors. The small one has been cleaned and is deep colbolt, The bigger one is as found in a barn, Note the original cork still on it. I think if I were to clean it it would fall somewhere between aqua and clear Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 10

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/5/2006 11:22:54 PM    capsoda Posts: 7917 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Matt, Cliff's bottle is the oldest. The 1873 date is the patent date for hydrate of magnesium 8% sollution with water, invented by Charles Henry Phillips. The phrase milk of magnesia was patented by someone else and phillips didn't start usind it until 1880. That would be your bottle with the 1873 patent date peened out. The familar and common 1906 bottle has the patent date for the trade mark shield. The link below it the patent date for the trade mark. http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=71016576 < Message edited by capsoda -- 6/5/2006 11:24:13 PM > _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Mike O) Post #: 11

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/6/2006 9:01:30 AM    Ye Olde Prospector   Posts: 614 Joined: 1/23/2005 From: Bath, Maine Status: offline Hi Warren, Thanks for the info. I figured from the aqua glass and oval shape the one I had was probably an early "Milk of Magnesia". Didn't know when it was first marketed. Anyone seen other aqua Phillips bottles? It might actually be worth getting cleaned I suppose just to add to my collection. I haven't dug any others. Just kept it as an oddity. (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 12

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/6/2006 2:39:25 PM    Bottleman Posts: 851 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline It’s nice to see some of the older Phillips here. Last year I saved all the ones I dug and had about 15 different Phillips. Most were screw tops but they were all different. I ended up sell them because they were to new but I did save a few of the ones that said tablets on them. ~~Tom (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 13

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/6/2006 3:53:36 PM    capsoda Posts: 7917 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Cliff, I'd clean it. The early ones like yours are not all that common and are worth more than the usual $10 asking price. Sold a large one for $30 and a small one for $20 at a local auction using a good explanition of why it is different. The peened ones are fairly rare too. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 14

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/6/2006 8:13:39 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5157 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I've seen very few of the aqua Phillips. It would probably be pretty valuable if it wasnt associated with the other common versions... a case of guilt by association _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 15

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/6/2006 8:37:06 PM    Ye Olde Prospector   Posts: 614 Joined: 1/23/2005 From: Bath, Maine Status: offline Hi Matt and Warren, Thanks for the info. I'll sit it on my back shelf for now, with the rest of my hoard of needs cleaning bottles. Maybe by 2073 someone will be looking for one, Cliff (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 16

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/7/2006 8:23:02 PM    mabel   Posts: 22 Joined: 5/28/2004 Status: offline Here are my 3 oldest Phillips bottles.  The one on the left has the same mold as Guntherhess' except his has the dates peened out.  It is an ice blue.  The middle aqua bottle and the faint purple one on the right both say NewYork, so I imagine they are earlier although they too carry the 1873 date. Attachment (1) (in reply to Ye Olde Prospector) Post #: 17

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/7/2006 8:27:27 PM    mabel   Posts: 22 Joined: 5/28/2004 Status: offline Here is a better picture of  the blue one. Attachment (1) (in reply to mabel) Post #: 18

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/7/2006 8:32:32 PM    mabel   Posts: 22 Joined: 5/28/2004 Status: offline This is probably my oldest, as it says New York and is clear.  The bottles appear to have been clear initially, then over time were blue, then the familiar cobalt blue. Attachment (1) (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 19

RE: evolution of Phillips' Milk of Magnesia? - 6/7/2006 9:31:08 PM    Ye Olde Prospector   Posts: 614 Joined: 1/23/2005 From: Bath, Maine Status: offline Hi mabel, This last one looks like same mold as the greenish aqua one I  posted. Guess from info "Milk of Magnesia" wasn't embossed til 1880 or later.  The neck on the one I have has lots of bubbles and stretch marks with a hand tooled lip. Guessing both of these were made between 1873 - 1880. Interesting info from this thread. Cliff  (in reply to mabel) Post #: 20

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