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found gold - 9/6/2009 8:31:49 PM    athometoo Posts: 1752 Joined: 9/25/2008 Status: offline not sure what this is , found on a creekbed . was gold color and after using silver polish and tooth brush it tuned silver or white bright . non magnetic and wont spark on a grinder . any ideas? picked up a double handfull , it was half buried in shale rocks . any other tests to perform? think im going to go back and pick up the rest to put in my rock garden . heres a pic of the ones cleaned Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: found gold - 9/6/2009 8:33:19 PM    athometoo Posts: 1752 Joined: 9/25/2008 Status: offline could it have been slag from a foundry? there is a t.o.c rroad bridge 300 yards upstream . Attachment (1) (in reply to athometoo) Post #: 2

RE: found gold - 9/6/2009 8:41:00 PM    athometoo Posts: 1752 Joined: 9/25/2008 Status: offline also i did use a giger counter on it , we use it at work for p.m on our scanners . this is what else i found at the site . not a very productive day on the bottle side . do the rest of you pass this stuff up when walking creeks or am i just a weird feller who like to put unusual things in a rock garden . thanks for any help im kinda leary of asking someone to run an acid test to see if theres any gold content to it . dont want to look foolish . there is probally a five gallon bucket full i left on the creek bed . anyway thanks again , hopefully i can find some glass next time . sam Attachment (1) (in reply to athometoo) Post #: 3

RE: found gold - 9/6/2009 9:05:52 PM    DiggerBryan   Posts: 893 Joined: 12/3/2004 From: Ohio Status: offline Hey nice finds! I don't know what the little silver globs are but they're pretty cool! What is the thing below them? A fossil of some type? Pretty sweet whatever it is. I am the same way though. Being an artifact collector where ever there are rocks my eyes are always glued to the ground. Drove the girlfriend up the wall :)  _____________________________ Life is easy with your eyes closed. (in reply to athometoo) Post #: 4

RE: found gold - 9/6/2009 9:24:23 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11451 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline The rocks look like they may be a form of pyrite. Nice big cephalopod fragment. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to DiggerBryan) Post #: 5

RE: found gold - 9/6/2009 9:31:58 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1650 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Hey Sam... You will know gold when you see it. I too was out diving for bottles last week and found some gold... in the form of false teeth!!!! Don't know how old they are, but it looks like they are a set of "bottom chompers" with inlaid 18kt gold !!! kind of neat. I brought them home and my wife wanted nothing to do with them... but my 17 year old son "Nathan" said, "Cool..." and put them into his mouth!!! Go figure. Anyway, i will be putting them into the acid bath to try an clean them up. I'll take some more pics and then put the gold into the "rainy day" jar. Never know what you're gonna find in or out of the water. Wayne Attachment (1) (in reply to DiggerBryan) Post #: 6

RE: found gold - 9/6/2009 9:33:05 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1650 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Another shot... The teeth are all hand made and filed... custom fit I'd say... any dentists out there to give me an idea on the age???? Attachment (1) < Message edited by southern Maine diver -- 9/6/2009 9:34:28 PM > (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 7

RE: found gold - 9/6/2009 11:06:35 PM    cordilleran   Posts: 760 Joined: 2/13/2008 From: Washington Status: offline Great observation, Gunther. Appears to be marcasite concretions given the geological formation they were found and the mineral's silvery appearance. Both iron pyrite and marcasite are iron disulfides (FeS2). The difference is in crystalization. Both are brittle upon fracture rather than malleable, hence the name for both minerals traditionally known as "fool's gold". _____________________________ A life unchallenged is a life unlived. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 8

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 8:00:52 AM    Poison_Us Posts: 2952 Joined: 5/27/2009 From: Savannah, Ga. Status: offline A few of pyrites traditional tells are: it usually has a black hue to it.  It's also in cube shaped crystals and clumps of crystals.  Gold is usually curvy, globular or anything but in a crystalline form.  Pyrite also flakes when picked at, like mica. _____________________________ Poison Us Member: APBCA ( www.poisonbottleclub.org ) Visit Us @: www.poisonousaddiction.com Looking for digging partners in/near Savannah. Be a friend. Give the "GIFT" of Poison. (in reply to cordilleran) Post #: 9

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 10:14:03 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11451 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Crystal form gold... http://www.crystalclassics.co.uk/UserFiles/old-site/Image/articles/denver%20show/denver06-153.jpg _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to Poison_Us) Post #: 10

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 10:20:32 AM    cordilleran   Posts: 760 Joined: 2/13/2008 From: Washington Status: offline Pyrite does not have a basal cleavage like muscovite, biotite, phlogopite. lepidolite or vermiculite micas. Hence.it does not flake. When struck, however, it will give off the slight odor of sulphur. < Message edited by cordilleran -- 9/7/2009 10:22:29 AM > _____________________________ A life unchallenged is a life unlived. (in reply to Poison_Us) Post #: 11

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 5:27:58 PM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2799 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline So - what's this? Gold? I like your rocks. Definitely would have brought them home even though I don't have a rock garden. Attachment (1) _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to cordilleran) Post #: 12

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 5:35:17 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12294 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online Kate, that type of gold paint is usually made of brass powder.. looks like there's some copper in there too.. or is this some of your party make-up?  (in reply to pyshodoodle) Post #: 13

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 5:46:25 PM    pyshodoodle Posts: 2799 Joined: 8/3/2008 From: Lehigh Valley PA Status: offline Charlie - I found it in the dump (most ended up in the dirt).. there are a couple chunks that look like they are copper (oxidated), but most of it is really 'gold looking' for lack of a better word. Does brass hold it's color like that for a long time? I figured whatever the binder was, it evaporated.... this is very very powdery. Could use it for party make-up! Just would be curious what I'm putting on my face. _____________________________ HONESTY IS NO LONGER PC. (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 14

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 5:56:51 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12294 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online I misspoke before.. bronze is the most common "gold paint" ingredient.. depending on the other stuff in the mixture, the luster could be preserved despite the powdery consistency.. it was generally mixed with laquer or varnish... (in reply to pyshodoodle) Post #: 15

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 11:49:31 PM    photolitherland   Posts: 313 Joined: 6/20/2009 From: Russellville, Arkansas Status: offline Its pyrite for sure. Im about to graduate with a degree in geology and we find pyrite sort of like this from time to time in the shale beds north of where I go to school. Its high in Fe and it precipitates usually around a central fossil thats usually made of calcite. Those are some pretty big chunks of pyrite though, nice finds.  _____________________________ I see a mansard roof through the trees, the ground beneath my feet, it has garbage and concrete. (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 16

RE: found gold - 9/7/2009 11:55:21 PM    cordilleran   Posts: 760 Joined: 2/13/2008 From: Washington Status: offline What are you going to do with a degree in geology? _____________________________ A life unchallenged is a life unlived. (in reply to photolitherland) Post #: 17

RE: found gold - 9/8/2009 2:21:23 AM    capsoda Posts: 9832 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Wack a piece of it with a maul. If it breaks put it in your rock garden. If it mashes take a piece to a jeweler and have it tested. Looks like slag or casting material to me. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ http://www.bornagainamerican.org (in reply to cordilleran) Post #: 18

RE: found gold - 9/9/2009 8:49:21 PM    Just Dig it Posts: 1357 Joined: 5/7/2007 From: The Whaling City Status: offline The gold powder looks like pigment... _____________________________ My other cars a bottle... (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 19

RE: found gold - 9/10/2009 8:33:44 PM    Plumbata Posts: 1659 Joined: 12/4/2007 Status: offline Nodules of pyrite; FeS2, or chalcopyrite, CuFeS2. I tend towards the former due to the morphology and color, but I ain't a geologist and just collect the crap for fun, so i am not certain. It is almost definitely a metallic sulfide though. I would be really happy with those finds, honestly. Nice job! < Message edited by Plumbata -- 9/10/2009 8:35:29 PM > _____________________________ Alterius non sit qui suus esse potest. Advertisements contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper. - Thomas Jefferson (in reply to Just Dig it) Post #: 20

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