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from dryer to tumbler - 2/9/2011 8:19:50 PM    d12016466   Posts: 111 Joined: 1/4/2011 Status: offline Hello, Can any one send some pictures of a bottle tumbler. My clothes dryer died on me so I pulled it apart, I was thinking of using the parts and construct a tumbler, I'll keep you posted on my results, That's all. Now I have to get out of these wet clothes, Dave Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 2/9/2011 8:20:51 PM    d12016466   Posts: 111 Joined: 1/4/2011 Status: offline The driving force... Attachment (1) (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 2

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 2/10/2011 12:10:16 PM    buzzkutt033 Posts: 1388 Joined: 12/17/2007 From: East Penn Township Pennsylvania Status: offline if you search the old posts in this section, you will find folks that used everything from skateboards to clothes dryers to tumble bottles. you will need some rollers, like the ones used on conveyor belts. where the cannisters will ride. use schedule 40 4" pipe about 20 - 22 inches long for your cannisters....... jim (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 3

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/1/2011 9:37:56 PM    d12016466   Posts: 111 Joined: 1/4/2011 Status: offline Just finished my bottle tumbler. Think I'm going to call it "the mini tumbler 3000". I installed a variable speed control device so I can regulate the speeds, from 0 to 1,000 RPMs for those bottle people who don't have the time. Don't know how it works yet...it keeps blowing fuses! I wonder if Alex Graham Bell had this problem... It pays to be a darned good machinist! Keep you posted on my results. Dave Attachment (1) (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 4

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/1/2011 9:46:43 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11446 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline looks a bit like my direct drive model. Dont infringe on my patent http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/m-133099/mpage-1/tm.htm#134391 _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 5

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/1/2011 10:07:53 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 12283 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online Maybe that motor doesn't have the necessary torque if it keeps blowing fuses.. that kind of testing makes its presence felt on your electric bill, ya know.. Good luck with the project! (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 6

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/1/2011 10:40:11 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9793 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline quote: if it keeps blowing fuses.. LoL,..Some of our locals would probably just put one of these in, if those 30 amp wimpy glass ones kept blowing....I'm sure this is about 60 or 70 amps...(JUST KIDDING!) Don't even consider it...just kidding, just kidding around... Attachment (1) _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 7

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 6:09:07 AM    cowseatmaize Posts: 6443 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Eastern Northwest West Central area of Mass Status: online The load may be from the variable resistor. Does it spin freely without it? _____________________________ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Eric (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 8

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 10:24:30 AM    d12016466   Posts: 111 Joined: 1/4/2011 Status: offline I think my problem is in the variable control. The unit spins freely. I'm using a 10 amp fuse think I have to go to a higher fuse, I like the copper penny,that would work. Than last night I was thinking of hooking up the tumbler to the tread mill or exercise bike that way I can have super clean bottles AND a skinny wife,just one of my great idea's...dave (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 9

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 10:43:19 AM    d12016466   Posts: 111 Joined: 1/4/2011 Status: offline Gunthehess, I should of looked around, I like the way you have the position of the shaft, I think that would take away alignment problems that I may have,but I think we are on the same page.....Dave (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 10

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 11:40:41 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11446 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I used a rubber padded coupler for connecting to the shaft. That allows a bit of play in the motor connection. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 11

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 12:28:43 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 6443 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Eastern Northwest West Central area of Mass Status: online The D couplers can be bought cheap from a plumbing supply store. They couple the motor and oil pump on a lot of oil furnaces. I'm sure you know elec but in case it got missed and the dryer motor is 240V. At any rate 10A is to low, go to 15 on 14awg wire, 20A on 12. The motor probably isn't meant for variable either. There are special duty motors for that. The overload may be from trying to make a 3500rpm do 1000 or less. _____________________________ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Eric (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 12

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 2:32:40 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11446 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline in dryers the motor should not draw much current at all, its the heating elements that draw a lot of current. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 13

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 4:45:26 PM    d12016466   Posts: 111 Joined: 1/4/2011 Status: offline Thanks guys for the help. I went out and got some 15 and 20 amp fuses. I got it running ok but the motor seems like it has 2 speeds it runs, them it seems to pick up speed,plus my canister is to heavy. I used some stainess steel I had laying around going to change that to pvc. back to the drawing board.....dave (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 14

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 4:48:19 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11446 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline make sure your home fire insurance is paid up. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 15

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 5:16:33 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 6443 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Eastern Northwest West Central area of Mass Status: online It's been 15 years since I scrapped one so I don't remember if they used a transformer or were straight 240V motors. Yes, low draw but not meant to be driven at 110. Double the amps minimum for trying. I saw yours Matt, what was that motor? It looks like a starter for a car (I know it's not). I highly doubt your canister is too heavy. Even ¼ hp should be plenty to drive that. I suspect yours is 1/3. Don't run a 20 fuse on 14awg, especially if it's old wiring. Insurance companies will laugh in your face. _____________________________ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Eric (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 16

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 5:20:47 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11446 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline quote: I saw yours Matt, what was that motor? Its a DC motor with a variable controller. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 17

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 5:36:45 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 6443 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Eastern Northwest West Central area of Mass Status: online quote: Its a DC motor with a variable controller. That makes sense then. You have an AC to DC converter with a rheostat control. Is it a 12V motor like a starter? If so you have a transformer in there too. _____________________________ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Eric (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 18

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 5:40:11 PM    d12016466   Posts: 111 Joined: 1/4/2011 Status: offline Thanks for all the help. Think I'll start from scratch, new motor and the works. Any suggestions on what motor to use? I really hate spending money (i think that comes from my Polish heritage...) So, off to the town dump on Saturday! Dave (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 19

RE: from dryer to tumbler - 3/2/2011 6:01:41 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11446 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline find an old treadmill. They have great motors and the variable controllers to boot. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to d12016466) Post #: 20

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