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gin jar? - 8/31/2006 6:07:46 PM    peltster Posts: 307 Joined: 8/12/2006 Status: offline not sure about this one, so some like it but was hoping for some assistance. I also posted more pics of the cathedral bottles,thanks Kyle Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: gin jar? - 8/31/2006 6:08:31 PM    peltster Posts: 307 Joined: 8/12/2006 Status: offline another pic Attachment (1) (in reply to peltster) Post #: 2

RE: gin jar? - 9/1/2006 1:54:50 AM    huffmnd   Posts: 372 Joined: 8/8/2005 From: Sparta Tennessee Status: offline Nice bottle there I am not an expert on those but I think it may be a case gin. What does the embossing say? (in reply to peltster) Post #: 3

RE: gin jar? - 9/1/2006 4:52:28 AM    cowseatmaize Posts: 2135 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Metro West, MA Status: offline It looks like a Vandenberg applied seal but I can't quite see it.. These are sometimes called pig snouts. While in general sealed cases are worth more and the lip finish is also more desireable this one is fairly common. Has it got a nice pontil? _____________________________ My 10¢ worth (inflation) Eric If you love what your doing it might be illegal, so watch your back. (in reply to huffmnd) Post #: 4

RE: gin jar? - 9/1/2006 7:14:00 AM    bearswede Posts: 2906 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline The last price Kovels' (2002) put on a Van Den Burgh & Co case gin at 11 inches was $66... Ron _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 5

RE: gin jar? - 9/1/2006 7:24:01 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1468 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Hi , Eric is correct , that is a Vandenburgh sealed case gin . These used to sell for around a 100.00 at one time. Then quite a few surfaced , and they seem to sell in the 35.00 - 55.00 range now ( for the larger variant). The smaller ones still bring arond 65.00 - 75.00 . I don't believe a pontil example exsists ..... I have never seen or heard of one . Well anyway , Nice Gin ! _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 6

RE: gin jar? - 9/1/2006 3:59:22 PM    peltster Posts: 307 Joined: 8/12/2006 Status: offline bottom of bottle Attachment (1) (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 7

RE: gin jar? - 9/3/2006 1:19:27 PM    peltster Posts: 307 Joined: 8/12/2006 Status: offline Please have a look at the bottom of the gin jarand let me know if it is unusual. It looks different from the other gin bottles I have been researching, thanks Kyle  (in reply to peltster) Post #: 8

RE: gin jar? - 9/3/2006 4:55:16 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1468 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Hi again , It must be a mold imperfection of somekind .... I have a Vandenburgh with a smooth base , and one with a diamond shape embossed on the bottom. I don't believe yours is pontiled ..... I have never seen or ever heard of a pontiled example ! Nice Sealed Case Gin ! _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to peltster) Post #: 9

RE: gin jar? - 9/3/2006 4:56:44 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1468 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Is it smooth , or does it look like a pontil rod was snapped off ( jagged , sharp, and rough ) ? _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 10

RE: gin jar? - 9/3/2006 5:18:10 PM    peltster Posts: 307 Joined: 8/12/2006 Status: offline the bottom looks like it has a small pontil. It is not flat but indented. That is why I thought it was unusual. It does't look like any of the other gin jar bottoms I have seen. (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 11

RE: gin jar? - 9/3/2006 9:41:23 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Nope, Not a pontil. Case gins were held by the blow pipe on the other end and were shaped with paddles and later in open top molds. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to peltster) Post #: 12

RE: gin jar? - 9/3/2006 10:37:23 PM    peltster Posts: 307 Joined: 8/12/2006 Status: offline thanks for the info, the bottom looked different than the others I saw, so I was curious as to what had caused the indented bottom. Kyle (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 13

RE: gin jar? - 9/4/2006 8:52:32 AM    bearswede Posts: 2906 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline quote: Not a pontil. Hey Warren... You seem to be implying that no case gins are pontilled!??! Ron _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 14

RE: gin jar? - 9/4/2006 11:40:15 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1468 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Case Gin base (pontil) . Attachment (1) _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 15

RE: gin jar? - 9/4/2006 1:39:28 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Nope, Didn't mean to. I've had a few pontiled ones. The ones from the era his was made. They were cooled enough to handle, then the top was reheated and rolled. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 16

RE: gin jar? - 9/4/2006 2:11:02 PM    peltster Posts: 307 Joined: 8/12/2006 Status: offline did a little research and several sites are showing pontilled case gin bottles. I am not sure of the difference between an open pontil and regular  pontil, but they all seem to look different on the gin bottles I have seen. Ebay also has a few for bid at the moment, so any experts out there please confirm or deny, thanks Kyle (in reply to peltster) Post #: 17

RE: gin jar? - 9/4/2006 6:27:31 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1468 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Yours is not pontiled ! Nice Case Gin though . _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to peltster) Post #: 18

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