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has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 2:54:23 PM    PhilaBottles Posts: 1003 Joined: 9/25/2005 From: philad.A Status: offline has anyone seen this in NJ? are all the states doomed?!? Attachment (1) _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/iheartmykitten Post #: 1

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 3:36:38 PM    capsoda Posts: 8088 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Yeah really, You don't want to be out defacing any dirt for heavens sake. More public property that the public is not allowed to use, Great. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 2

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 5:45:57 PM    mudmonkey Posts: 76 Joined: 12/4/2005 Status: offline probably some wacko group complained because you were disturbing some ants or bugs.Heavens to bid you disturb a rat in a dump or cleaning up a place in New Jersey! (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 3

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 8:09:26 PM    lacolobiger Posts: 68 Joined: 12/5/2004 Status: offline Iwonder if the winer that ponded tho nails into that tree is a real tree hugger or just someone that gets there kicks wineing. I'd better start digging before them stupid laws make it out here. thanks for the heads up!! (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 4

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 8:12:25 PM    portland med. man   Posts: 303 Joined: 2/25/2005 Status: offline nope havent seen any like that but have seen on that said no trespassing and on the bottom it said leave this historic site along you perverts well i thought being a pervert was from checking out teen girls in plaid mini skirts and why would it be historic while still buried under 4 feet of dirt... about your sign i dont think posting one sign would keep me out of there unless they`re within state posting guidelines... i would dig there if there`s just one sign 5- 6 feet up dig till your hearts content... gotta post right by law...and some times the people posting these signs dont have a clue of the law .... in maine most people use no trespassing signs but never use them correctly ......whoopsy < Message edited by portland med. man -- 2/27/2006 8:14:38 PM > (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 5

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 8:26:34 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1483 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Philabottles... Thanks for posting that Matt... it's a "wake-up call" to all of us! That is one of the nicer things about being underwater... The tides, rains, run off and ice do more damage than I do... I dig a hole and in a week or so, the tide has filled it back in again!!! Oh well, I imagine that someday, we'll all be forbidden to collect anything... I'm afraid those times are coming sooner or later... Wayne (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 6

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 8:56:45 PM    capsoda Posts: 8088 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline It wern't no tree hugger pounded those nails in that poor tree. Trees have feelings too ya know. It were probly a revenuer or somthin lak that. Yea it's crap alright. In Alabama all land is posted by law. Even public land, which is supposed to belong to John Q. Public but instead is in the care of greedy s*#_@^! who steal our tax dollars and blow the rest on useless pet projects. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 7

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 9:01:55 PM    amblypygi Posts: 454 Joined: 4/6/2004 From: Western Massachusetts Status: offline Technically it's illegal to do any sort of "underwater excavation" in MA without a permit. I never ever do that! All of the bottles I've found are what are called "isolated finds", which are legal to retrieve. Also, if you ever stumble across a cobalt bitters or anything else worth more than 5 grand: that belongs to the state (at least in MA) according to a "treasure trove" law that was passed after the discovery of the Whydah some years back. There's an interesting compilation of lots of these laws here (it's a fascinating read, you should check it out): http://www.myhastings.org/outlines/ArchaeologyRelicsLaw,Cunningham,Fa1999.doc < Message edited by amblypygi -- 2/27/2006 9:06:40 PM > (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 8

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 9:05:33 PM    amblypygi Posts: 454 Joined: 4/6/2004 From: Western Massachusetts Status: offline And do yourself a favor and NEVER find anything "cultural"... (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 9

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 9:13:48 PM    crkgrl   Posts: 137 Joined: 11/20/2005 From: Kentucky Status: offline I think it is technically illegal to remove anything from any state or federal land. At one of my favorite walking spots, the government entity decided, 8 years ago after a hurricane, that they had to "close" the area because of hurricane damage. Thing is they never opened it again. Then miraculously more "closed" signs started popping up. I figure it is either a lack of manpower or some big government plot. There isnt much activity in the areas now, but some people still walk it occasionally. Nobody has been arrested as far as I know. (Insert government rant here). (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 10

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 9:57:13 PM    capsoda Posts: 8088 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline What they don't know won't hurt them. If I throw a beer bottle in the water I could get arrested so I'm just picking up trash that someone else threw away. Helping out by removing trash and helping the ecoligy of this fine planet. Hey, I guess I'm just anouther trash hugger. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 11

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/27/2006 10:34:43 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2407 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: offline hi philabottles, that's not good to see. i am not sure what the laws are in md. i guess i should find out. everytime i go digging i feel like i need to look over my shoulder. that's sad. rhona (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 12

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/28/2006 12:36:58 AM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1483 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Hey Sean... I hear ya... so, when I use my "jet" nozzle or my suction dredge, I am re-distributing the overburden and as long as I don't bring the "dredge" material to the surface and haul it away, I am within the guidelines set forth by the Army Corps of engineers. As long as it does not interfere with navigation... so ... technically, I can re-distribute overburden along the bottom in such a way that it does not interfere with navigation and collect "trash" and bring it to the surface... just my way of contributing to the ecology... Trying to save the world... one bottle at a time!!!! Wayne (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 13

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/28/2006 7:06:37 AM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Seems like to me ya'll 'er actin' within the spirit of the law... Yup... Thinkin' like lawyers... Is that a GOOD thing, Martha??? _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 14

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/28/2006 7:47:22 AM    woody   Posts: 1819 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: online I found the law on New Jerseys website. http://www.nj.gov/dep/hpo/2protection/protect.htm Scroll down to where it says "Archaeological Site Protection " on the left and click on "final law". You'll need Adobe Acrobat Reader. It makes it pretty clear that you can't dig on certain areas of public land in New Jersey. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 15

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/28/2006 8:44:03 AM    CanadianBoy   Posts: 657 Joined: 7/25/2004 Status: offline In Canada if you remove anything from a body of water its considered piracy,next time I go out I'm taking my parrot & wearing a patch. _____________________________ So many Dumps,so little time. So get DIGGING. I've been "DOWN IN THE DUMPS" since 1970. Never dug a dump, I didn't like. "May you all Dig well and Prosper" http://www.nexicom.net/~djackson/ Dave J. Ontario,Canada. (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 16

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/28/2006 3:09:00 PM    bearswede Posts: 2912 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline quote: I'm taking my parrot & wearing a patch. ARRRGGHHH, Matey... Don't forget ta strap on the ol' peg!!! _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to CanadianBoy) Post #: 17

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/28/2006 3:24:50 PM    CanadianBoy   Posts: 657 Joined: 7/25/2004 Status: offline Hey, if it was thin enough I could use it as a probe _____________________________ So many Dumps,so little time. So get DIGGING. I've been "DOWN IN THE DUMPS" since 1970. Never dug a dump, I didn't like. "May you all Dig well and Prosper" http://www.nexicom.net/~djackson/ Dave J. Ontario,Canada. (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 18

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/28/2006 4:55:43 PM    mudmonkey Posts: 76 Joined: 12/4/2005 Status: offline Yo Ho Ho And a Bottle of Rum! (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 19

RE: has anyone seen this in NJ? - 2/28/2006 5:32:40 PM    PhilaBottles Posts: 1003 Joined: 9/25/2005 From: philad.A Status: offline i love running from park rangers here in philly, sometimes they have horses. the cops have dirtbikes now...they are cool people and they always ask for bottles full of liquid that they can drink. only if the erosion didnt destroy so many living creatures and PLEASE! THINK OF THE ECOSYSTEM....hey! is that a shrubbery? i must destroy it! HAHAHAHA this is sarcasm. i do not intentionally destroy shrubbery. thanks for all the replies! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/iheartmykitten (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 20

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