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is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 9:36:03 AM    julia   Posts: 39 Joined: 7/14/2006 Status: offline I just got this at an auction. I am puzzled? It has little bubbles all over. The base has indents and what looks like sand marks. it is purple with white inlay. thank you Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 9:36:47 AM    julia   Posts: 39 Joined: 7/14/2006 Status: offline the base Attachment (1) (in reply to julia) Post #: 2

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 10:11:32 AM    woody   Posts: 1636 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Looks like a vase to me, Julia. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to julia) Post #: 3

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 10:59:11 AM    julia   Posts: 39 Joined: 7/14/2006 Status: offline is it old (in reply to woody) Post #: 4

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 11:15:15 AM    woody   Posts: 1636 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline I believe it is old, Julia. There's a name to the pattern it has, also. Maybe another forum member knows the name it is called. It eludes me right now. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to julia) Post #: 5

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 2:06:42 PM    diggerjeff Posts: 555 Joined: 7/4/2004 From: central illinois Status: offline its kinda like a coin "spot pattern", only the dots look elongated a bit. if those spots are actually bubbles the correct term might be  "controlled bubble". yes it looks very old. the color is a bit odd. _____________________________ diggerjeff I DIG, THEREFORE I AM. (in reply to woody) Post #: 6

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 2:32:42 PM    julia   Posts: 39 Joined: 7/14/2006 Status: offline the white spots are not bubbles. It is the pattern. There  are little bubbles and kind of long ones through out the vase. I got this at an auction last night for 7 dollars.  (in reply to diggerjeff) Post #: 7

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 2:33:52 PM    julia   Posts: 39 Joined: 7/14/2006 Status: offline I can t find any mold seams. (in reply to julia) Post #: 8

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 3:52:44 PM    huffmnd   Posts: 372 Joined: 8/8/2005 From: Sparta Tennessee Status: offline Definately a vase, how tall is it? Could be considered a floor vase if it is pretty tall. (in reply to julia) Post #: 9

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/22/2006 5:28:04 PM    julia   Posts: 39 Joined: 7/14/2006 Status: offline It is 17 1/2 inces.  (in reply to huffmnd) Post #: 10

RE: is this a vase ? - 8/28/2006 10:18:30 AM    karis66 Posts: 110 Joined: 5/31/2006 From: Lake's Region NH Status: offline I think the pattern may be called  Flashed glass hope that helps (in reply to julia) Post #: 11

RE: is this a vase ? - 9/3/2006 6:57:33 PM    tncgal Posts: 255 Joined: 8/10/2005 From: east TN Status: offline Your "controlled bubble" vase was swung.  That's why the bubbles are stretched.  With one color on the inside and another on the outside, it's called "cased", not 'flashed' which is entirely different because that produces a thinner layer of glass.  After the original gather of glass, another gather was placed over it so when your vase was blown it produced the effect you see. Your vase is *probably* a mid-20th century import. _____________________________ ~ tncgal ~ (in reply to karis66) Post #: 12

RE: is this a vase ? - 9/5/2006 5:37:17 PM    julia   Posts: 39 Joined: 7/14/2006 Status: offline Thank you. Very helpful. (in reply to tncgal) Post #: 13

RE: is this a vase ? - 9/5/2006 6:28:30 PM    bottlescrounger   Posts: 8 Joined: 9/5/2006 Status: offline The very first thing I look for on anything is the wear. Is there any wear on the bas of this vase. You can usually tell if you hold it to the light on an angle and look for a fuzzy ring around the base. the more scratches and frosty it looks the older it is usually. As far as I know anyhow. _____________________________ I love crawling with the snakes and bugs(it's where the bottles are!!!) (in reply to julia) Post #: 14

RE: is this a vase ? - 9/5/2006 8:08:08 PM    karis66 Posts: 110 Joined: 5/31/2006 From: Lake's Region NH Status: offline FLASHING - The superimposition of a thin layer of glass on the body of a glass object; it is done by dipping the object into molten glass (unlike CASED GLASS). The flashing, if of a contrasting colour, could be ground through to produce a pattern, as in the case of CAMEO GLASS produced by the Romans. Cased glass: see Overlay glass: A technique of putting successive layers of different colors of glass over an object and cutting away areas to expose the layers of color. Vases that look like they have been stretched or pulled while the glass was hot are called Swung Vases. The name comes from the method by which they were made. When the vase came off the mold, a worker would swing it back and forth to create the elongated look and flared rim. Each swung vase is slightly different due to the process of hand swinging each vase. In an interview with The National Cambridge Collectors, Inc., Richard Long So What Is IT? (in reply to bottlescrounger) Post #: 15

RE: is this a vase ? - 9/17/2006 6:03:23 PM    David E Posts: 995 Joined: 5/24/2004 Status: offline Hi, If you can look down into the vase and it is  another color and a full layer it is called cased. And this will up the value. Never heard of a swung vase, but it does make sense. Then you have fired and flashed, forgot which one but beleive the fired was also dipped and refired. And flashed was just painting over the base glass, with another color and refired again. . This was also a cheaply made Bohemian which was cut to clear. Anyway in time they wear off the outer color, where as a cased item would not. Glass, too many diffent ways to fool the beholder. Dave < Message edited by David E -- 9/17/2006 6:05:44 PM > (in reply to karis66) Post #: 16

RE: is this a vase ? - 9/19/2006 8:15:20 PM    tncgal Posts: 255 Joined: 8/10/2005 From: east TN Status: offline This vase is cased and swung.  ;-) Here's some info about Stained and Flashed, for future reference  ~ Stained glass is pressed glass with a chemical coating that when fired to 800 degrees f, would bond to the glass, becomeing a permanent layer on the surface. Flashed glass is blown glass that has been dipped in a pot of colored glass while still on the blowpipe, before final forming. It encases the entire piece of glass and may be cut through to show crystal beneath. Blown glass can be stained, it looks painted, but pressed glass can't be flashed. The stain is the thinnest, so it would be more likely to be scraped through, showing clear glass behind. Some is thinner or more fragile than others. But again. Look at the glass. If it's pressed, it's gotta be stained. you can't take a piece of pressed glass and dunk it in a batch of molton glass, it would either shatter or melt. ******* http://www.patternglass.com/FlashCaseStain/FlashCaseStain.htm _____________________________ ~ tncgal ~ (in reply to David E) Post #: 17

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