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joseph goldman soda - 4/11/2006 9:08:36 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2311 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: offline hi everyone, pick this soda up at the bottle show last month. it had a pretty color but needed tumbling. wasn't sure how it would turn out took a gamble. it's embossed joseph goldman, baltimore, md., this bottle is register,not to be sold. any information on age or possible value would be greatly appreciated. thanks for looking , rhona Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: joseph goldman soda - 4/11/2006 10:39:20 PM    capsoda Posts: 7930 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Rhona, Don't have any info on that bottle but it sure cleaned up beautiful. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 2

RE: joseph goldman soda - 4/12/2006 5:48:51 AM    Sam_MaineBottles Posts: 375 Joined: 4/5/2004 From: Mid-coast Maine Status: offline Hi Rhona - The 1925 Universal Bottlers book has a Goldman & Freiman Bottling Co. listing located at 118 S. Eden St. My guess is that your bottle predates that by 10-15 years. I've never seen a soda with an embossed horseshoe like that - nice bottle! -Sam _____________________________ Author of 'Maine Bottlers and Their Bottles, 1840-1980' (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 3

RE: joseph goldman soda - 4/12/2006 5:22:00 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 1693 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: online Rhona, I have this bottle, I found one as a kid. In the 2nd edition of the Baltimore Bottle Book they have five varients. There is an aqua and clear BIM and clear ABM small crown tops. There are also aqua and clear BIM large crown tops. Your cleaning job looks great. Since you said color I'm thinking yours is BIM and the seams don't go over the top. The Goldman, Freiman Bottling Co has three varients listed, two small crowns and one large crown, all ABM and all clear so Sam is probably right on that yours was the earlier venture. Most are listed as common but still a great bottle to have. New varients are always being discovered and there is probably some out there where the clear could be SCA. They are working on a third edition of the book as I believe the 2nd edition is sold out. Steve (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 4

RE: joseph goldman soda - 4/12/2006 10:58:57 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2311 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: offline hi warren, sam and steve, thanks for looking, compliments and information. this bottle is abm but the seams don't line up? they stop and start again about 1" over on the shoulder? had a little trouble getting the amythest (sp) to show , the base is very thick, so it's very dark there. hi steve, welcome to the forum. i'm on a list to get a copy of the next edition of the balt. bottle book, can't wait. thanks again, rhona ps, any value? (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 5

RE: joseph goldman soda - 4/13/2006 8:00:33 AM    cobaltbot Posts: 1693 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: online Rhona thanks, this is a great forum. Yours should be pretty early ABM as the seams don't line up and SCA, that's cool, I have to hunt mine up cuz I vaugely remember it being SCA too. The baltimore book is a great book but they don't know of all clear bottles that may turn SCA. They want people that know of unlisted embossed bottles and stoneware with a Baltimore city or county connection to send info to Doc Andersen at drewbarb@bcpl.net . I wish they would add a section on stoneware jugs. (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 6

RE: joseph goldman soda - 1/25/2008 6:05:05 PM    AFreiman   Posts: 7 Joined: 1/25/2008 Status: offline Hello All, I am excited to see this string of posting. My great grandfather, Henry Freiman, was a VP at Goldman-Freiman bottling. His uncle, my great great great uncle, Joseph Freiman, was company president. I can confirm the accounts entered above by previous posters. My great uncles and grandfather have been search for Goldman-Freiman bottles for years. I have recently taken over the search. Their main brand was called Lord Calvert Beverages. The Freiman's became a part of the company at least prior to 1922, when they were involved in a lawsuit together, Goldman-Freiman Bottling Co v. Sindell. In this suit, they lost $400, which I assume was worth being an appeals case 85 years ago. Anyway, I am excited to see this posting because it means we are on the right track to find one of the bottles. Does anybody out there have information on how I can obtain any Goldman-Freiman bottles? Please let me know. Sincerely, David Freiman davidafreiman@yahoo.com (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 7

RE: joseph goldman soda - 1/25/2008 6:58:31 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 1693 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: online Hello and Welcome to the forum!  Bottle collectors in general are very in favor of matching up bottles with relatives.  Very few of us have relatives with a bottle past and with a name like Ciborowski my chances are very slim to nil.  Miles and Burns are also family names so I do have a connection to pursue.  Do you have a copy of the Baltimore bottle book?  The Baltimore show is also coming up and that would be a chance for you to find some bottles you seek. _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to AFreiman) Post #: 8

RE: joseph goldman soda - 1/26/2008 1:36:02 AM    thesodafizz   Posts: 167 Joined: 1/13/2008 Status: offline David, I can put your request for any family bottles in my next magazine along with your email address.  Let's see what happens! (in reply to AFreiman) Post #: 9

RE: joseph goldman soda - 1/26/2008 10:27:29 PM    AFreiman   Posts: 7 Joined: 1/25/2008 Status: offline That sounds great. Thanks guys. You all rock! I found a guy up in Baltimore who has a couple of them. I'll keep you posted once I see them on their quality and whether they are actually Goldman-Freiman. Thanks again! -David (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 10

RE: joseph goldman soda - 1/26/2008 11:29:32 PM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2311 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: offline hi david,  welcome to the forum. i was checking the balt. bottle book. they list the goldman, freiman bottling co. bottle as common,  they list the bottle embossed with lord calvert beverages on shoulder as uncommon.  you should be able to find some.  do you know how long they where in buissness?  good luck finding them.   rhona (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 11

RE: joseph goldman soda - 1/26/2008 11:58:10 PM    AFreiman   Posts: 7 Joined: 1/25/2008 Status: offline Hmm, I'm not exactly sure when they were in business exactly. I think, though I'm not sure, that it folded/sold out to Suburban Club around 1958 or so, but again, the details are sketchy. I'll have to check with my grandfather for details. What is the difference in Common versus Uncommon as far as pricing? -David (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 12

RE: joseph goldman soda - 1/27/2008 12:52:05 AM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2311 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: offline  hi david,  there is also a acl soda listed,  lord calvert, since1893/ copyrighted 1940/ lord calvert beverages, not sure if this one is related or not.  that's why i was asking about a time period.  good luck, rhona   ps i will keep an eye out for them.  i think i paid $8 for the bottle i have,  if a bottle is uncommon it's would be a little more expensive. (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 13

RE: joseph goldman soda - 3/5/2008 9:17:56 PM    AFreiman   Posts: 7 Joined: 1/25/2008 Status: offline So, of course I wrote down March 8th for the Baltimore Bottle Show....and therefore missed it. I just realized my mistake this morning....not so smart on my part. Did you all enjoy the show? -David (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 14

RE: joseph goldman soda - 3/6/2008 7:43:20 AM    cobaltbot Posts: 1693 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: online I did. see: http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/Baltimore/m-151581/tm.htm _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to AFreiman) Post #: 15

RE: joseph goldman soda - 8/22/2008 11:45:40 PM    AFreiman   Posts: 7 Joined: 1/25/2008 Status: offline Any chance that any of you have come by a bottle of Goldman-Freiman soda? I'm still looking for bottles for my grandfather and his brothers. It was their father and great uncle that made up the Freiman of the bottling company. I would love it if any of you could help me get the bottles to my grand father. Thanks, David (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 16

RE: joseph goldman soda - 9/5/2008 12:30:33 PM    AFreiman   Posts: 7 Joined: 1/25/2008 Status: offline Dear Rhona, I am writing to see if you have come across any more bottles like this Joseph Goldman bottle.  If you remember, we corresponded a few times early this year.  My great grandfather, Henry, and his uncle Joseph Freiman were business partners with the Joseph Goldman from the bottle you posted on the forum.  My cousin and I have recently met our long lost cousins, the grandchildrent of Joseph Freiman.  They look like us and everything.  This has caused me to ramp up my efforts at finding any and all Goldman-Freiman bottles that may exist so that I can give them to our new cousins as a gift.  If you have seen any around, please let me know. Thank you so much. Sincerely, David Freiman 443-928-9728 (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 17

RE: joseph goldman soda - 9/9/2008 12:20:38 AM    Trying not to break it Posts: 2311 Joined: 12/18/2004 From: balt. md. Status: offline hi david,  didn't see your post at first.   nice that you could conect with other family members.  my club meetings start this fri.,  i will try puting an ad in thier monthy news letter and see if that gets any results.  good luck with your search.  rhona (in reply to Trying not to break it) Post #: 18

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