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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 3:08:36 AM   
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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 4:53:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I say, string them all up, it'll teach them a lesson. Damn Rebels ! Damn Yankees ! It does tick me off as to the fact that my Rebel Grandfather got his blasted butt kicked like he did though.

All joking aside though, I have a couple of books out in the garage that shows records of Civil War Soldiers, ( I believe all from the North ) as to what battles they fought, whether they had been wounded or killed, and in what battle, if and when they were mustered out and other info. I can not think of the name of the books, They were printed in volumes in alphabetacle order. Published in the 1880s I think. Will try and figure out where they are, and try and take a few pics of some of the pages. Wish I had the entire set of them. They make for some very interesting reading.

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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 6:52:02 AM   
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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 8:23:54 AM   
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LC, The records you refer to may be similar to the set of pension records compiled by the State of Georgia.  All deaths and injuries attributed to this conflict had to be documented before benefits were paid.  Where the injury was located (upper arm, lower hip etc.) where it happened etc.  I learned more going through these records than in any history book.  I was able to follow my Great Great Grandfathers Regiment (57 Ga. Inf. Army of Tennessee, CSA) throuhout the entire conflict,  including his surrender at Goldsboro N.C. Debating on a bottle forum will not bring back one of these brave soldiers North or South. I did a lot of research on the history of this regiment, and also visited some of the battlefields.  Joined the SCV for a while, but the camp seemed more interested in the re-enacting than on the history of the conflict.  Never again should we have to suffer in such a horrific war.  There were great losses of lives on both sides.  I am proud of my Southern heritage and my ancestors who fought for what they considered a noble cause.  But I will not debate on a bottle forum who was right or wrong.  Lessons learned, move forward.  Pick an ancestor who fought on either side, follow their journey for four years, and ask yourself, could I do that today?

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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 11:40:46 AM   
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there were many great lesson's learned during that time
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To bad they have all been forgotten!  The blacks won't work and the Mexicans are taking over! Soon the Chinese will be running the show.
100% Rebel born in Texas living in Oregon with a bunch of dumb yanks!
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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 11:57:45 AM   
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The blacks won't work and the Mexicans are taking over! Soon the Chinese will be running the show.


I'm black, from Mexico and my mother was half Chinese... I work, don't plan on taking anything over and don't see myself running this forum anytime soon...


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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 12:12:09 PM   
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To bad they have all been forgotten!  The blacks won't work and the Mexicans are taking over! Soon the Chinese will be running the show.
100% Rebel born in Texas living in Oregon with a bunch of dumb yanks!
Glen


this is without a doubt the those most ignorant statement I've heard in many a year. what time warp did you fall out of? why don't you crawl back in you silly rebel you. Where you kicked in the head by a mule son? That would explain a lot.
Rick.

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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 3:18:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, %^$#, got timed out again. What I had said logeub was that you are right as for the Civil War. To this day, I find it hard to believe that Fathers Sons and Brothers could actually fight against each other over the issues regardless of what they were. As for the books, you  may be right as to what they are. I will make it a point get hold of one of them and see for sure, will let you know. It would take a long time to go through an entire set of these books whatever they are. I wish I had all the volumes, or at least the one with the letter B to see if I could have found any information on my Grandfather Barker to find out whether he had seen any action.

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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 3:43:32 PM   
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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 3:44:56 PM   
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RE: Civil war? - 6/20/2007 8:31:47 PM   
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RE: Civil war? - 6/21/2007 1:18:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Many fought because they were draged into the military and what side you were on was according to where you where when you got nabbed.

I saw a family grave in Blackhawk (I Believe) Colorado where a lady out lived her husband and 3 or 4 sons who were killed in the Civil War along with younger cheldren who died of various malidies from 6 mos to about 4 years. They were all buried around a large inscribed monument including her.



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RE: Civil war? - 6/21/2007 1:33:02 AM   
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RE: Civil war? - 6/21/2007 4:21:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello logueb, found one of the books this afternoon. Regretfully, the first 36 pages are missing out of this book due to the front of the binder coming apart while in the hands of someone else who apparently could have cared less whether it fell apart or not, so I have no idea as to when it was printed, but my guess would be the late 1880s or 90s.  When viewing the pages, the ones at the right, at the top are printed ROSTER OF OHIO TROOPS. At the top of the pages at right show the numbers of the different regiments of the OHIO VALLEY VOLUNTEER INFANTRY. One heck of a neat book. Will see if I can find the other one tomorrow. I believe it has nothing to do with only Ohio troops. Tried to take a couple of pics from a couple of the pages to show you how things were printed in this book.I do not show the soldires names to try and keep the print big enough to be able to read. The soldiers name is printed at the left of each entry.




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RE: Civil war? - 6/21/2007 4:22:59 AM   
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RE: Civil war? - 6/21/2007 11:09:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		LC, Yes that appears to be the same type book as the one from Georgia.  I think they are called offical rosters of regiments.  There is so much history included in the pics you posted.  The battle of Chickamauga Ga. , killed in battle, died from wounds received, died in prison, captured in battle, demoted and discharged in 1861(wonder what he did).  Also there seem to be small battles listed that sometimes are hard to research.  Great stuff.  Everything had to be verified and recorded. One amazing fact that I discovered is that the Confederates did not always use the same name as the North.  For instance I found a lot of soldiers injured at the Battle of Baker's Creek, but later found out that this was called the Battle of Champions Hill by the North.  No computers , everything hand written.  How did they keep up with all that info.

I am wondering how many of my fellow Southerners celebrated Confederate Memorial Day on April 26 to honor their ancestors.  That was the day that Johnson surrendered his troops at Goldsboro North carolina and my Great Great Grandfather walked back to Georgia  and started his family of 9 children.  The first was born in 1868.

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RE: Civil war? - 6/21/2007 2:59:25 PM   
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I'm black, from Mexico and my mother was half Chinese... I work, don't plan on taking anything over and don't see myself running this forum anytime soon...
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Sounds like a good mix to me Ron.
My only question is what the he!! is for supper?

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RE: Civil war? - 6/21/2007 3:08:25 PM   
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this is without a doubt the those most ignorant statement I've heard in many a year. what time warp did you fall out of? why don't you crawl back in you silly rebel you. Where you kicked in the head by a mule son? That would explain a lot.
Rick.




Rick maybe you should crawl back out of the hole you been living in ( not the privy you been digging) lol
and take off your rose colored glasses.
So the Mexican's don't out work the blacks and the Chinese aren't taking over?

This is what's great about bottle collecting! Such a wide variety of people all with a common interest.
Glen

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RE: Civil war? - 6/22/2007 1:05:51 AM   
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I was born in the south just like my forefathers and having traveled the world I love it here at home. No matter how my Native Indian, Jewish, Scottish, black, white hearatige looks to anyone else I am an American. Not something else and American or American and something elas. Just American.

Americans usually do what they feel is right. Even if it does seem wrong to future generations at least we aint a sittin on our duffs. Both sides thought they were right but industry and propaganda won the war much like it wins wars all the time. Those boys did what they had to do and the common soldier, where wearing blue or gray were all heros in my book just like any soldier who is willing to give his life for his country and the folks in it.

Ok, the soap box belongs to who ever is next.

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RE: Civil war? - 6/22/2007 2:18:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Found the other book this evening logueb, I believe it is the same as the other volume only covering different Regiments. Book is entitled - ROSTER OF OHIO SOLDIERS 1861-66 ; WAR OF THE REBELLION VOL. VIII. . This volume covers 110th to 140th Regiments - Infantry, printed by the Ohio Valley Press of Cincinnati in 1886. A great book of resource if you know what Regiment your family member  was attached to.

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