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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/7/2007 10:56:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's when it bugs me. No hello, could you help or anything. Just a lousy picture with no description and not so much as a thanks after. That's rare but it happens.

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/7/2007 11:47:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		No my first question was not (What's it worth) I was 14,  My Grandmother got me into bottle digging, at the time she owned an antique barn in the poconos, the first dump I ever dug had local blob top sodas it it, I was hooked on the spot, she might have thought humm what's this one worth but never said to me, that bottle could be worth some money, Ricky lets sell it!! instead she talked about the (History) of the bottle of that era, I don't think you read what I wrote and what others wrote that agree with me, I never said I (never sell) any bottles, I said its not the first thing that comes to mind when I dig a good bottle, (I love this hobby),also I would not sell a Clorox to some one for 100 bucks, even if a newcomer wanted to buy it, and that is the only type of bottle collector that would,, that's called being honest, that's one of the reasons I believe I dig such good pits is because being honest in life gets you great paybacks in some things you love in life, and digging bottles is on the top of my list, also if you think people come to this site and say (what a bunch winning of idiots) then how come you stayed?  I am not complaing I was just stating my point, on the What's it worth subject, and I do help people, look over past posts. ALSO that's my line you cant use it.
  
(That is my Life and I am sticking to it.)  I am glad I caught this post, it was a refresher course on GREEDAnd how thankful I am For my Grandmother.May she rest in peace,thanks mum keep them good pits comeing.


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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/7/2007 3:02:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		You might be able to (buy) another, but it might be a little tough to dig a great bottle like that again.Rick

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/7/2007 3:07:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		YEA I will tell you the value,its worth about how much I spent on reading glass at the drug store ....so I can see if that was even a bottle hahahahahah!!! RICK

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/7/2007 3:42:17 PM   
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quote:

it might be a little tough to dig a great bottle like that again.Rick


Don't believe that baby was ever in the ground... That's another consideration:

"Attic" mint bottles are never found by digging... They must be acquired above ground...


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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/7/2007 7:14:15 PM   
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That's cool and all but I think I will take mine from the pits of  days long past, or like you said find one in an old house under the floor boards or (Attic) in mint shape, but for me, IM talking just for my self now, if I couldn't (Find) dig my own bottles I wouldn't have any, when I get to old to dig,thats a whole different ball game,mabey I should start a thread To dig or not to dig that is the question? hahah Rick I did dig a (attic mint) bottle an emerald green squat I swear it was in a box under the ground its so clean. And scratch free.




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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 1:19:38 PM   
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I found a quarter today what's it worth? Bhahahah!!!!!

Strange that this was posted in this thread.  Hey Rick, I found a quarter during a dig last week.  Not just any quarter mind you.  A 1789 ( 2) Reale  Spanish Milled Mexico Mint Carlous IV coin.  According to the web, that makes it a quarter or 1/4  the value of a piece of eight (8 reale).  Guess what everyone who sees the coin asks? " What's it worth?"   I have enjoyed the reasearch into the history of this coin more than any monetary value that I would receive.  Did you know?
That the British would not let the Colonies mint their own coins?
That the first US  mint was in Philadelphia in 1792?
That the Spanish Milled coins were used as currency in the newly formed US?
That the portrait on this 1789 coin is not of Carlous IV, but of Carlous III?
Neither did I until I did the research. 

Want to see a Pic of the coin?
Maybe I'll do a post later.

I've collected for over 40 years.  What's the collection of 40 years worth?  Do I expect a return on all the time that I have invested in digging, buying, studying etc.?
Am I going to sell the collection and finance my retirement?  Do I think of $$ everytime that I pull a bottle out of the ground?
Money is a part of this hobby. Also is the supply and demand aspect.  We either dig, buy, trade, or are given bottles.  We dig and create a collection and also save money.  We buy and upgrade collections.  We  specialize and sell off what we do not collect.  Do we bring home every bottle that we dig?  Of course not. And why not? Because we leave those common unembossed bottles because there is little monetary value in them. Ahhh!!. we say that we do not have the room, that we leave them for future collectors etc. But the truth is that we leave the ones that have no value. I enjoy the collecting part and yes I have that "what's it worth?" in the back of my mind every time I see a bottle. It's  that part of the hobby where the knowledge and experience pays off.   Nobody wants to get ripped off buying or selling.  In my years of collecting, I have sold three bottles, three Coca Cola Hutches.  At the time I needed  the money, but had no idea of their true value. Had the forum been here , those would probably be sitting on my shelf today.   I probably will never be able to replace those in the collection.  This forum is a great place to learn about bottles and collecting and values.   I have collected more in the six months since I have been on the forum than I had in the past six years. And yes, I get tired of hearing the "what's it worth"  and no regard for the history of a bottle.  My collection is probably worth about as much as my opinion, about  Two cents worth.

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 5:11:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let me pose another question for you Rick.  Say you and your digging partner dig a bottle or something worth $50,000 would you keep it or sell it? What would you do in that kind of a situation?

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 5:47:42 PM   
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Hey Chris whats up...yea we talked about that when we started digging together, any real (big) money bottle we would sell and split, now your going to ask me what's big money right?  you said 50 grand so 50 grand it is. when is that going to happen? lol your not a mind reader are you  hahah  Rick

ps that FGC clorox is worth about 50 Gs isnt it


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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 6:01:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Buster..yea I would like to  see a pic of that coin, is it in good shape? man my buddy would flip, he's the coin man, as to this subject of what's it worth, every body does there own thing, we we all thought the same it would be one boring world wouldn't you say? you said worth is one of the first thing you think when you pull out a good bottle, well so do i but its filtered through my brain to come out as this...The worth of a bottle just tells (ME) how good I am doing, Quote from a good friend of mine Charlie Cook, New Orleans 70 years old and still digging, so I guess I do think of money, but not in my pocket. Rick     I thought this thread was long gone

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 6:59:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rick I guess everyone just has a point were the money out weighs the historical value of an item. Yours being $50,000. others it mite be $50 or $5 some people don't value history. Others value history but need some extra money to live. Everyone has to set a line where they can afford to keep something or sell it and use the money for other purposes. My digging partner said he wouldn't want the responsibility of having a bottle worth more then $20 grand in his house. And if he sold the bottle he would probably take a vacation or buy a new truck or something he doesn't buy bottles just digs them. Me on the other hand if i liked the bottle and it went with my collection I would gladly keep it. And my digging partner I'm talking about has been digging sense the early 1960s and has thousands of pontiled bottles hes dug. He very very rarely sells anything he gets in the pick. Unless he has more then one of them and its going to a collector that will really enjoy the bottle. Where as me I sell probably 95% of the bottles i dig. I only keep the ones that relate to my collecting interest and i use the money from selling the ones i don't have interest in to buy others for my collection. The point I'm getting at is everyone has their own reasoning for wanting to know what a bottle is worth. And who really cares if the only reason the owner of a bottle wants to know what its worth is to sell it then so be it. When they sell the bottle hopefully it will end up in the hands of someone that will enjoy the bottle and the seller can use the money for what ever they want. The way I look at it is its a Win Win situation for all.

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 7:43:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Somehow and someway money always comes into the picture! I learned a valuable lesson. In a previous thread I posted about a bottle I dug near the Reading Airport, this spot I have been digging since I was a kid. Only me and my best friend knew about this spot until I posted a pic of a blob top soda from there. I went back about a month ago and found my spot to be dug hard core. I spoke with someone who is a member of  this forum too and he said he heard that two forum members found my spot. I say "my spot" because I have been digging there on and off for twenty years. I personally think it is pretty low! If you guys that did the digging are reading this..thank you for the lesson. I will never post where I dug anything here again. What did they do it for?? MONEY! Sorry Rick, seen this post as a good avenue to vent.                                  John  

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 8:11:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Chris I said that before, to each his own, this thread started because  I saw 4 people in a row post (what's it worth) and it stuck in my head, to tell you the truth I am happy with the way I dig, the way we don't pick bottles, the way I  feel about history and bottles, and the way this thread ended up, I love to dig bottles and feel that rush & the feel of history all around me, I cant say others feel the same way, but I do, and one more thing I know is when I leave this forum, and go dig a pit, all is washed from my brain money,people,talking about money, talking about bottles, IM right your wrong, your right IM wrong,blaa blaa blaa ect it all boils down to EACH HIS OWN just like you said about your digging buddy not selling and you selling, IM like him and you  mixed keep the good sell the common, no matter how you look at it, we all love to dig bottles,or buy bottles or we wouldnt be here. Rick

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 8:19:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why say sorry to me John?? im with ya,tell it like it is, that's greed for you, and being a rotten person in my book, If some one did that to me I would find them, it is a free country and all but at least they could have ask if they could join you at your spot. Rick

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 8:38:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Chris, RIGHT ON!   I just joined this forum to say it.

It can get annoying when people with no interest in a bottle are constantly clucking about "what is it worth?"  but they found it, one way or another and are entitled to its value.  The quicker they get rid of it the quicker someone who appreciates it will have it.  If these people knew there were other ways to find a bottles value the wouldnt be asking...

When I dig a bottle the first question is "what is it?' then sometimes "wow" and sometimes "oh one of those"  but I always want to know "what is it worth?"  I am not a rich Man and if I dug a valuable bottle I would have to sell it.  I probably wouldnt want too but I need rent, gas, to pay bills, food, a car (my truck just died) and even to spread some joy with my family and friends like a nice dinner or trip to the cape....

I know my history and the story behind my bottles, and enjoy long hours of research to know these things but...

I also have a crud load of bottles!  I keep narrowing down the field and ending up with too many...  I have drakes plantations and wolfes and pontils sitting boxes because I cant display them! So some will get sold to someone who can proudly put them out on a shelf and a few, as much as I hate to keep them boxed will stay there until I get a bigger place!  Isnt that all part of it? the open and free flowing exchange of bottles? 

We all sell at some point while there is probably a bottle for all of us which at no point would we sell, contradicting but true?  And there are treasure hunters who have no interest in history or collecting, and as long as they are not digging our dumps there doing us a favor by bringing more great bottle to light, right? 

So what is it worth...  10 cents, 50,000 thousand bucks, a hike through an old deserted homestead, a peaceful day reminiscing through history, that excitement of not know what it is yet, a good work out, a keen and victorious hunt through a junk shop or that rush when you snipe the bid with 2.5 seconds on the clock!



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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 9:13:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rick, I brought the thread back up because I enjoy the finding, searching the history, and adding to the collection.  I just wanted to vent about the "what's it worth " thing.  I get so tired of people asking me this.  When you tell them a bottle is worth maybe a buck or so they say Oh. Like every bottle ought to be worth a fortune.  The money thing doesn't bother me.  If someone hits a great bottle, it's theirs to do as they please.  I know where mine is going, into the collection room.  Like you I use the value as a gauge of how the dig is going.  The older the bottles the better the value and the greater the historical value.  There is so much history in these bottles. I'll try to get a pic of the coin and post.

John, Man that's a bummer.  I always use code names for the dumps that I dig.  You've probably seen my post of the swamp dig, kudzu dig etc. Let em look and find the way that I did.  I haven't posted any digs lately.  It could have been accidental or it could have been the posting on the forum, but I've seen some folks poking around lately.  I had a good situation with the trackhoe operator and supervisor and didn't want someone screwing up the dig. I'll try to post later on that construction dig.

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/11/2007 9:16:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sell them all!!!!  hahahahahah  who cares !!! sell your clothes your house, your car, your dog,your cat as long as I have (my) good bottles that's all that matters to me,  Aint it funny how this post is bringing people out of the wood work,mabey that's what you need to get people to speak up. Rick

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/12/2007 6:06:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ching Ching! thats  the post I was waiting for! your the man!this is my last post on this subject! ....I think  Rick

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/12/2007 8:53:55 AM   
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I went back about a month ago and found my spot to be dug hard core. I spoke with someone who is a member of this forum too and he said he heard that two forum members found my spot
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ORIGINAL: jwschaefferlesson.


I have dealt with lowlifes like this that were so called "friends" even."Good buddy" if you will.I will call a spade a spade too.Now,I routinely hear about people that don't even know me thinking I am a dirtbag because of what they heard from a friend of these people.Several on this forum.I have got along with all the great people in this hobby with the exeption of a couple.I have never stole,or took somebody I know digging spot.NOBODY SHOULD POST THE LOCATION OF AN ONGOING DIG!!!This is the best lesson a newcomer can learn.Good people expect others to be the same.This hobby has the best group of people I have ever met,but there are the *******.GREED SUCKS!!!

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RE: WHATS IT WORTH??!! WHATS IT WORTH??! WHATS IT WORTH? - 7/12/2007 9:57:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have learned my lesson!! I am still very thankful I found this forum, I can tell that most here are just "good people". But I won't forget again that greed is very real! And...............GREED SUCKS!

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