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RE: hassled by police again - 9/4/2008 2:22:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		A few guys with hard hats usually looks more offical then one guy. Don't seem to have many problems when you dress for the part.

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/4/2008 8:33:52 PM   
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Status: online 		I don't like messing with the cops, but I would go back there...maybe on a rainy day,  or a foggy day, or at  4 a.m., or a holiday, but I would go back.  Your odds are they won't be there again when you are. However,  I would also try real hard to figure out how they learned of your presence, and work around that if possible.  Is it a nosy neighbor, are you making too much noise, are you in plain sight, near a footpath or what?  Someone saw you or saw what you did and called them.  But who?

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/4/2008 8:39:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		yo, ive been hassled , thank god they didnt see the shovels lol mike

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/6/2008 6:54:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Kim; ...not only trespassing; but the state of Florida now has a law that you cant bottle dig(or even pick up old bottles); ..its considered historic and property of the state(similar to indian artifacts & fossils). Thats why he made you put the bottle back. Its a real shame when you cant take home trash. 

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/6/2008 8:03:12 AM   
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I don't like messing with the cops, but I would go back there...

They're only bottles folks. It's all good fun until you find yourself standing in front of a judge explaining why for the third time you went back after being told to pack it up and go play somewhere else. If you can't get permission to dig move on. What would happen if say you ran into a property owner like myself who was far less understanding and not bound by silly laws saying you can't give tresspassers a crack in the face with an ax handle. The time and place to ponder good digging ethics is not in the intensive care unit of your local hospital.

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/6/2008 7:58:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Lobes, I read all of your post's because half the time I disagree with you 110 percent, and half the time I agree with you 110 percent! I never know till I read um. lol! I got to say on this one you nailed it. (imho) People that dig without permission..... that's fine. I hope you find that Bryant's bitters! Man I will be cheering you on! However, If you get caught with a wonderful 1880's Worchestershire bottle in your hand and you go to jail, or are brought up on charges and have to pay a lot of money to keep your ass out of jail........ who you gonna blame?  Blame your own self. It is a bottle, for cryin out loud,..... And if it is on someone else's land, It is their bottle.  Just My Humble Opinion,  Kelley

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/6/2008 9:09:10 PM   
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Status: online 		ahhh you know Gunny how hard it is to please all of the people all of the time. I bend over backwards to be humble and pleasing to all on the forum. I speak my mind as should everyone else on these fine pages. this place wouldn't be what it is if we all just kept knodding our heads and saying yes, yes, to one another. Glad we agreed on this issue. It's an important one. Especially if someone's digging holes on my land

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/6/2008 9:10:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree on getting permission first.  If you can not just say oh well and go on to the next one.  I dive  on a river that is filled with old landfills the area I dive in is spread 25 miles long and has 17 old dump sites under water and some are in VA and others in WVA.  crossing 3 counties.  I approached every town and also the county to get permission to dive these areas and explained to them what I was doing.  They all gave me permission in writing and wished me well.  Recently I dove at an old RR trestle where a caboose was under the trestle in the water.  I went to the RR NFS and told them what I was doing and after 2 meetings and 1 counciil meeting they gave me permission in writing.  Thank God for that as during the 2nd dive a state trooper saw us from the road and radioed for back up.  When your in the water and 4 state troopers show up possibly thinking I am going to blow this up it can get a little hairy.  Showing them the paper work I had.  They all left, shaking their heads.  It is not worth getting fined or going to jail just for a bottle.  Get permision, its not hard to do.

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/6/2008 9:32:22 PM   
Dabeel


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Status: offline 		Well said Arthur,

That's amazing that you were able to get written permissions from city councils!
With all the hub bub over archaeologists and laws trying to be passed to limit our hobby....that's good for you.
I couldn't even imagine trying to get the red tape experts in California to give me written permissions.....No problems with getting owner permissions though.
Good advice.

Doug

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/7/2008 2:41:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: baltbottles

A few guys with hard hats usually looks more offical then one guy. Don't seem to have many problems when you dress for the part.



   Great advice the first time,but after you have been thrown out it's too late.Knowing the properties owners name is also good advice (already mentionted). If I am following this post correctly,permission was never seeked.What is the holdoup?Assuming the answer is going to be no,on account of some conspiracy theory is silly..You never know until you ask.

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/7/2008 3:02:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		   I'm with you Arthur.Recently I have been digging the privies at the White House.Of course,my request was initially vetoed by the President. Persistence was the key however,after a week of congressional hearings and ringing endorsements by the Queen,  the Dahli Lama, and Ryan Seacrest permission was secured. Boy,I am glad we went throught the proper channels because we were continually hassled by the Secret Service and the local PTA.

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ORIGINAL: arthur

I agree on getting permission first.  If you can not just say oh well and go on to the next one.  I dive  on a river that is filled with old landfills the area I dive in is spread 25 miles long and has 17 old dump sites under water and some are in VA and others in WVA.  crossing 3 counties.  I approached every town and also the county to get permission to dive these areas and explained to them what I was doing.  They all gave me permission in writing and wished me well.  Recently I dove at an old RR trestle where a caboose was under the trestle in the water.  I went to the RR NFS and told them what I was doing and after 2 meetings and 1 counciil meeting they gave me permission in writing.  Thank God for that as during the 2nd dive a state trooper saw us from the road and radioed for back up.  When your in the water and 4 state troopers show up possibly thinking I am going to blow this up it can get a little hairy.  Showing them the paper work I had.  They all left, shaking their heads.  It is not worth getting fined or going to jail just for a bottle.  Get permision, its not hard to do.


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RE: hassled by police again - 9/7/2008 5:45:46 PM   
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Status: online 		YEars ago I was digging on a man's land and had been told he would under no reason let anyone dig on his land and there was no reason to even ask him. Of course I went to dig anyway. Soon I heard a riding lawn mower getting closer and closer. Well the person turned up on his mower and asked what the Hell I was doing on his land.I did not run ,lie ,etc. I told him I was digging bottles and would leave.It took the man aback and he said "Well at least you tell the truth,go ahead and finish digging that bottle,BUT DON'T COME BACK![course it was a sawyers] He said I am going over here and shoot my pistal to see it is still in good working order. IT WAS! I LEFT AS SOON AS I COULD BECAUSE I WAS AFAID HE WOULD CHANGE HIS MIND!

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/7/2008 11:05:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		screw the cops and the law.if u love what your doin keep on doin it.

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/7/2008 11:08:20 PM   
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quote:

screw the cops and the law.if u love what your doin keep on doin it.

My words exactly! Come try your luck on my land Steam, you might get lucky. 

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RE: hassled by police again - 9/11/2008 4:15:19 PM   
jesster

 

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Status: offline 		any further developments? I haven't had a run in with police yet, but its only a matter of time. I parked in a local ballfield yesterday to take a look in the nearby woods. 5 minutes later  I saw a police car slowly pass my parked car. I figure some yahoo from the neighborhood must have called in a suspicious car. I guess if ever stopped and asked, I would tell the truth, best way to go. In a nearby town they just busted a guy for growing pot in a patch of woods behind his house. I guess the police are on the look out for any pot growers or thieves trying to make off with any copper lying around. I don't know if they've ever had to deal with a bottle collector/dump digger. I'm interested to see how they react.

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