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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/21/2007 1:02:51 PM   
tigue710


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Status: offline 		I think there is still context in the dump site, just not relating to who used it.  Sometimes the patterns of society in general as read through the trash they threw away gives a better picture of the way people lived at the time then the objects used by an individual, which only relate to that persons habits and health. 

The arcy's want every little bit of information they can, in context to what ever!  Mostly they just like digging stuff up and get jealous that we go do it when it cost them 150,000 to get a degree to do it and they dont get to keep anything!

Bwaaaahahah... sniffle sniffle, get a shovel and dig in your own yard mr archaeologist!


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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/21/2007 1:25:42 PM   
capsoda


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Status: offline 		I believe that a large portion, at least of the many that I have met, of the arcky types have no problem with the average poop hole dump type bottle digger. Most of us will never even see them BUT there will always be one or two overzellous obnoxious pains in the butt. These are the ones we will have all the fun with. The ones who call us thieves and destroyers of history. They are generally insignificant little ladder climing worms just like the ones that we all have met in every organization we will ever be in or come in contact with. They want their 15 minutes of fame and don't care who they step on to get it. you just have to beware of them. I have dug bottles with some friends who were archy types and I know the differance in what is significant and what is just another dump but I try not to call to much attention to my self even though the laws down here alow diggers freedom to dig for the most part.

I have several friends who are archy types who dig and collect bottles including Ron (Bearswede) but I don't go on TV telling people I dig with them and I can make a pile of cash by digging in what ever state I may be in. That is the kind of bad idea that will make us look like tomb robbers. We have all tryed to convey to others our passion for digging and collecting bottles but you have to admit that most just don't get it.

< Message edited by capsoda -- 11/21/2007 1:26:45 PM >

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/21/2007 1:44:06 PM   
citydigger

 

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ORIGINAL: tigue710

I think there is still context in the dump site, just not relating to who used it.  Sometimes the patterns of society in general as read through the trash they threw away gives a better picture of the way people lived at the time then the objects used by an individual, which only relate to that persons habits and health. 

The arcy's want every little bit of information they can, in context to what ever!  Mostly they just like digging stuff up and get jealous that we go do it when it cost them 150,000 to get a degree to do it and they dont get to keep anything!

Bwaaaahahah... sniffle sniffle, get a shovel and dig in your own yard mr archaeologist!



Yeah, I can agree with that Tigue. You make a good point, I guess there is SOME context, but on a MUCH broader scale. I agree with what you say about archae's 100%. This has been a very good thread, I hope we can keep it on a informative note and not let it get out of hand like things sometimes do around here. So far it has been very educational.

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/21/2007 1:47:02 PM   
tigue710


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Status: offline 		Very true Cap, I should verify in my last post that by no means do I shun all arcy's.  It is only a few that hold resentment and become a pain in the butt, (for what ever reason). 

I have a friend who is an Archologist who I took digging one time, and he loved it!  The funny part was at the end he was giving me all the bottles he dug.  I said you dont want to keep any?  To which he replied, shoot I forgot I could keep anything!  Normally we give everything to a cataloger and they put em up!  He picked a few to take home and wants to line up a few more digs!

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RE: HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!!!! - 11/21/2007 2:01:47 PM   
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Happy Thanksgiving Swedeman!


Hey Herr Katsmeow...

HAPPY THANKSGIVING yourself! And to all our Forum brothers & sisters, their families & friends: Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you dig it?

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/21/2007 11:25:45 PM   
California Dream N

 

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Status: offline 		I Love Lobey..He says it like it is..Sums it up and then goes about his business!! So True Lobey.......

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/21/2007 11:27:55 PM   
subsoil


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Status: offline 		This is great you guys, I am really enjoying the posts, I knew this link would draw tons of feedback, all I gotta say is look at the energy here, anything can be accomplished, it's up to us...

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 12:59:14 AM   
ktbi


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Status: offline 		Has anyone actually ever called an archy to watch them dig?  Did they ever do it again??

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 4:58:32 AM   
PhilaBottles


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Status: offline 		i bet if someone dug a GX-23 in puce, donated the auction money to charity, or the bottle to a museum only with publicity...that would shut up a few people. But some of you will argue that most wouldnt do that.



and i thought subsoil and citydigger was the same guy with his own forum , but im just showin some love.

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 8:04:00 AM   
digger mcdirt

 

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Status: offline 		I have learned two rules in this hobby after 30 years of digging and collecting. "Loose lips sink ships and out of sight out of mind". I have never allowed newspapers etc to do stories of my collection of bottles and Civil War. I have turned down many offers for interviews etc. Why? It advertises your collection whats in your house to everyone good and yes bad and it opens eyes and makes awareness to who you are and what your doing. I had the best dump site in the world closed because a new digger had to pose with his finds for the paper and even told (stretched) how much stuff was worth. One week later we had 50 new diggers one week later the owner posted the land and fenced it. Today it is still off limits the Police watch it like Hawks.All thanks to a nice little newspaper story on what he did and what he had found. Loose lips sink ships !

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 8:09:17 AM   
citydigger

 

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ORIGINAL: PhilaBottles

and i thought subsoil and citydigger was the same guy with his own forum , but im just showin some love.


why does everyone think I am someone else? I don't get it? Well I am sure you have your reasons.  Hey Phila, you guys have been digging some cool stuff. Nice job.

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 9:47:54 AM   
privvydigger

 

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Status: offline 		On a dig the other day a neighbor came over with a video camera and wanted to film us..  He said "don't you want to be on U-TUBE on the world wide web"  I said nooooooooo
thx anyway
HAPPY THANKSDIGGING
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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 9:52:53 AM   
appliedlips


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Status: offline 		   I copied this from a post I made on another forum.I totally agree with McDirt and Gunther.This law was not set out to stop privy digging but they will try to apply it to anything to serve their needs.McDirt mentioned Newspapers,which are never good,either.Historical sites need to be saved and not every pit or dump is one but lets use some common sense.I always post bluntly on these topics and for this reason,new diggers and collectors always love seeing the press and need to see the flip side.Doug




   The law is ignorant,but we all know archeologists feel this way
and the feeling will continue to spread.What I think is ironic
is,many folks in here thought a show called CASH AND TREASURE
featuring privy digging was good for the hobby.That was the dumbest
thing I'd ever heard of,not this law.This story infuriates us but
the way that show infuriated them.The law was there before the show
and was put on the books to primarily protect Native American sites
I imagine.Alot of guys continue to think being in your local paper
and public information is a good idea but it will only lead to
negative opinion of privy digging to uptight scholars.I learned
about digging privies on the internet and the information put online
continues to grow the number of diggers.This will surely lead to
more bad press for the hobby.I love to brag and show off my dug
stuff to other diggers but to do it in public is stupid.Regardless I
will write Susan White and voice my opinion.Doug

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 9:59:54 AM   
appliedlips


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Status: offline 		You sir are correct.This issue probably hits close to home for him since his dump was closed and in the paper.He openly hates this forum and puts it all over the net but can't stay away.If you look at Citydiggers past posts you won't see a whole lot of positive posts.Only stirring trouble.Happy Thanksgiving guys!


quote:

and i thought subsoil and citydigger was the same guy with his own forum , but im just showin some love.
quote:

ORIGINAL: PhilaBottles

i bet if someone dug a GX-23 in puce, donated the auction money to charity, or the bottle to a museum only with publicity...that would shut up a few people. But some of you will argue that most wouldnt do that.



and i thought subsoil and citydigger was the same guy with his own forum , but im just showin some love.

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 11:14:42 AM   
Humabdos

 

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 11:53:31 AM   
tigue710


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Status: offline 		We had a little fun there, and it's all gone now....

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 12:31:32 PM   
whiskeyman


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From: NE TENN-SW VA
Status: offline 		Interesting thread and many good points made:

I've been interviewed a couple of times by the local paper. It hasn't resulted in any kind of negative responses and I got very few leads from it.I made sure to state I enjoyed digging for bottles, but I never said where. I also stated I traveled to shows, yard sales, and flea markets in pursuit of bottles.Last week I was invited to give a talk about bottles at the local historical association meeting.  Unlike at bottle club meetings where I had spoken, it caused me to go round & round with how to do such a talk as 99 % of the members knew nothing at all about bottle collecting, etc. I began with old pontilled bottles and ended with ACLs and had examples of bottles to show. I lost my way a couple of times - my mind just went blank. LOLThe large crowd  of 60 or so Peeps, didn't help.At the end several approached me and said they enjoyed the talk, learned something and,  would look at bottles in an entirely different way now. So, I guess I was "successful"  in gaining both interest and attention to the Hobby.Another thing that came out of the talk was during the question & answer session. My wife pointed out to the President and membership that lots of bottles were still in the ground and what was the historical association going to do about it?The result: I was to draft a sample letter to send out to contractors, builders, the Cities of Bristol, and construction/demolition companies to contact names on the letter in the event any old bottles were unearthed/ found during the course of work, and the contacts would remove and preserve the bottles in question. Even if they all went to the historical association, that seemed a much better option than having them crushed and/or reburied .All in all, positive press for the Hobby can't hurt as long as properly "handled" and we do need new "blood" to continue to enter the Hobby. The more Peeps out there looking and digging - the more bottles will come to light.WE don't really own any of this "stuff". We simply enjoy it, gather it up ,and later dispose of it for like minded individuals to enjoy. Along the way we spend money, make money, trade back & forth and share our knowledge and expertise. I would imagine that in the long run, we're lucky to "break even" monetarily, considering all the time & labor we exhaust in the pursuit of our Hobby. 


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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 6:35:04 PM   
citydigger

 

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ORIGINAL: appliedlips

You sir are correct.This issue probably hits close to home for him since his dump was closed and in the paper.He openly hates this forum and puts it all over the net but can't stay away.If you look at Citydiggers past posts you won't see a whole lot of positive posts.Only stirring trouble.Happy Thanksgiving guys!


Come on appliedlips, no one wants any trouble. I have dug with Matt and know he is not well liked in this forum. I also know he dislikes a few of the members in here for his own reasons but I don't think he wants any trouble these days, he has calmed down a lot. I am not trying to start any trouble in here, are you? Because by posting the remark above it sure sounds to me like you are the one with a grudge. Just give me a break and let stick to the topic. I am not going to be provoked into an argument with you guys just because you do not like someone I know.

Now about that dump you were mentioning in you previous post. I think every local digger has dug in that place since the 60's. It sucks that they closed it down but to be honest, most of the stuff that came out of there was sick junk TOC stuff. A lot was melted. So the state closing it down really just gave us the opportunity to find better areas to dig. Privies are where the really old stuff is these days anyhow. Have a nice holiday and don't be haters. No one want any trouble on this end.

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 6:45:52 PM   
Oldtimer


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Status: offline 		We have 10,000 year old human settlements found and kept under gaurd here...bottles dug from surface dumps is such small potatoes no one cares except the landowner and the digger.

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RE: "A lot of bottle collectors have gone undergro... - 11/22/2007 8:52:02 PM   
JGUIS

 

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Status: offline 		Boy, it's nice to know that a guy can make a post on here now, and the thought police will take it down without a word because they don't agree with what it says.    Like I said before, land of the free my a$$.

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