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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 6:46:46 PM   
Digger George

 

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I agree with chris
 
did you paint your fingernails?
 
i like turtles
 
ebay 12,000 buy it now, do it.
 
good luck with whatever you do.
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 6:51:41 PM   
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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 6:52:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Digger George

What A Find!
 
I agree with chris
 
did you paint your fingernails?
 
i like turtles
 
ebay 12,000 buy it now, do it.
 
good luck with whatever you do.
 
 
 
 
 


thats why i always call george first to dig.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:03:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PhilaBottles
thats why i always call george first to dig.

why would anyone care? please elaborate on your dip mold theory...this thread could use a laugh.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:06:00 PM   
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arguing with my wife is definately not as fun as arguing about bottles



Great quote!Too many get bent out of shape when you challenge stuff you hear.Arguing about something you are passionate about is fun.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:06:29 PM   
PhilaBottles


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Status: offline 		i was saying hes a funny guy.

and if you want to take sides, dont let your blood-pressure get too high,

but then again if you got out and dug more youd be in tip top shape.


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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:09:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		What Balm of Silliness bottle are you referring to?The only one I have seen was blown in photoshop on a Privydigger named John's website.

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what came to mind was a strange bottle, the balm of silliness, and also the teal pint size udolpho wolfe's...

In retrospect American maker is not very clear...!


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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:18:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		You are wrong Philly boy.That is all there is to it.Please admit it,now!
What is it with guys named Matt around here?


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oh matty, i know you were trying to be a good guy, but if your unsure about something...dont assume a value.  You did know its a harder one to get, but that doesnt mean its worth a mint. the highest it would go is the $4700 range, but thats pushin it.

i too would say i was wrong if by some slim chance i am.  i would however like to see pictures of your PEZ collection when all is said and done.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:20:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		your a funny guy dougie. funny guy.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:31:57 PM   
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guys named Matt around here?


I can't help it, I was born with the name, some type of Biblical error I fear.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:47:02 PM   
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Status: online 		you got that huh? lol....  peterpans bottle....

I also enjoy turtles, but not hang turtles....

I started a thread on Matt's if you want to take it over there by the way...


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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 7:49:24 PM   
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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 9:05:05 PM   
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y


...so random but so funny...LOL!

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/26/2007 10:09:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PhilaBottles

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y


now that is good, how in the h-e- double L did you find that?!


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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/30/2007 9:40:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Frustrated by the general publics preference to buy English over American. It is very logical that American Proprietors would package thier items in English looking packages.

Hi everyone new member here, thought I'd chime in on this for my first post. The only thing I havent read or perhaps missed is the molds similarity to  the common London bottles blown here and England. 

The embargo was actually one of  the ballooning controverseys that ultimately lead up to the Civil War. People especially in the South didn't want the Feds taxing the goods they prefered.

The bottle screamed English to me when I saw it on the Bay. I was waiting to see who bid on it to determine whether it was american or not. Besides being a good place to sell bottles Ebay is good for learning about the bottles listed there, just like this site is. Thanks everyone for  contributing what they know about it.

 

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/30/2007 9:53:12 AM   
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Status: online 		Hey Phil,
Glad to see you made it on the forum.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/30/2007 3:17:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Phillip, I agree with your observations. Ebay is a fine place to buy and sell, and it seems that Ebay is also the best forum for determining if a bottle is American or English. Since Ebay has international reach, it will access the foriegn buyers as well as the American buyers. For one, prospective buyers have an opportunity to email the seller with any information regarding the piece. Second, as you mentioned, you can see who is bidding, which will often help you base your decision.

Many people do not care for Ebay, sometimes I don't care for the process myself, however, you have to admit that the audience reach helps level the playing field for buyers and sellers.

When I made my comments about the desirability of colored pontilled medicines... one of my comments were that collectors would rather buy an extremely rare medicine (one of 5-10 known examples) over a unique (only known example) medicine because of the fear of the unknown. To me, this bottle was unknown.

... just my opinion. Another 2 cents (I have like 6 cents in this thread)

Mike 

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/30/2007 8:52:52 PM   
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Phillip, I agree with your observations. Ebay is a fine place to buy and sell, and it seems that Ebay is also the best forum for determining if a bottle is American or English. Since Ebay has international reach, it will access the foriegn buyers as well as the American buyers. For one, prospective buyers have an opportunity to email the seller with any information regarding the piece. Second, as you mentioned, you can see who is bidding, which will often help you base your decision.

Many people do not care for Ebay, sometimes I don't care for the process myself, however, you have to admit that the audience reach helps level the playing field for buyers and sellers.

When I made my comments about the desirability of colored pontilled medicines... one of my comments were that collectors would rather buy an extremely rare medicine (one of 5-10 known examples) over a unique (only known example) medicine because of the fear of the unknown. To me, this bottle was unknown.

... just my opinion. Another 2 cents (I have like 6 cents in this thread)

Mike 
i like early glasses thinking does appear to be on the english side or an english blower in america...... it doesnt look like it was dug but thats my thoughts what else have you found with that bottle and what state did you dig it in.......... got any diggin photo`s??????????

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 11/30/2007 10:53:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		The bottle was dug in a Lancaster County PA. privy (wood liner) along with a few other local bottles. The privy was honey dipped.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/2/2007 9:26:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is interesting the bottle was found so far east of Uniontown in Lancaster. There are quite a few western Glass Houses it could have come from. Glass House attribution would greatly increase interest in your bottle. Geographic location of UnionTown and the color of the glass are clues to go by if one would attempt to connect it to a glass house. Another helpful clue but not always totally reliable-is determining when the hole it came from was filled in- knowing the time line of all artifacts found with it- etc. Someone found advertisments there may be more.

I've seen English glass that color but it would be expensive to ship things west before the trains and the canal. Not impossible but un-likely to come east of the Appalachians before the 1830 time period. Western Glass House workers werent as skilled as the guys in the east which may be the reason for the extreme crudeness to your bottle . I've seen 1840ish Pittsburgh and Wheeling glass that color. Also the first successful fintglass manufactory was in Pittsburgh which would explain flint examples.  My feeling is it dates closer to 1840 than 30. Its hard to to arrive at a 100% + conclusion....The more clues you have the better the hypothesis.  

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