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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 10:55:04 AM   
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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 11:01:30 AM   
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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 11:23:52 AM   
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I was the photographer/owner/ digger of the Braddee on ebay last year.  I'm glad you had the pic as I was in the process of getting one posted and adding my thoughts. 
Three of us dug it in northern Kentucky. It was in thin, black muck, pontil layer right on bottom of hole.  I never considered it to be an English bottle after I did my internet research on the Dr.  But I am not a glass expert, so it could be.  But my opinion is:  Given Dr Braddee's character, I doubt he would have payed extra to have bottles imported.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 11:43:18 AM   
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deepbluedigger,
I was the photographer/owner/ digger of the Braddee on ebay last year.  I'm glad you had the pic as I was in the process of getting one posted and adding my thoughts. 
Three of us dug it in northern Kentucky. It was in thin, black muck, pontil layer right on bottom of hole.  I never considered it to be an English bottle after I did my internet research on the Dr.  But I am not a glass expert, so it could be.  But my opinion is:  Given Dr Braddee's character, I doubt he would have payed extra to have bottles imported.



Thanks for being cool about me posting your Braddee bottle photo here! I reckon you're probably right about Braddee's character and paying for imported bottles.

I've got a great little pontiled opodeldoc bottle in my collection that looks 100% English in it's manufacture, but is likely 100% American: E. Byam's / Liquid / Opodeldoc. Flint glass, folded flared lip, solid pontil, English style serif letters. Ezekiel Byam was another American patent medicine man of the first half of the 19th century who was a real character, but he stayed on the right side of the law. There's a lot about him on Google.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 11:56:55 AM   
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I was the photographer/owner/ digger of the Braddee on ebay last year.


If you dont mind me asking, what was the selling price of that bottle last year.
PM me if you dont want to post it. Thanks

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 12:01:22 PM   
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Given Dr Braddee's character, I doubt he would have payed extra to have bottles imported.


Interesting reasoning, I cant say its right or wrong but I wouldnt nessisary assume that imported bottles were more expensive than having them locally made.  Locally made bottles probably did have a more predictable delivery schedule.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 12:09:09 PM   
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E. Byam's / Liquid / Opodeldoc. Flint glass,


I've seen several of the Byam's in flint glass and one in aqua, maybe a bit later.
It does have an English look.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 12:23:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		My Braddee bottle did not meet reserve.  Partner and I made a trade, and he now, very proudly, has it reside in his house.
Wanted to add, my research indicated Braddee bottles most likely late 1830's, as he was arrested about 1840 and died in prison early 1840's.

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/7/2007 12:27:16 PM   
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My Braddee bottle did not meet reserve


Thanks for the response. Do you happen to remember what the bid was when it ended?

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/27/2007 9:43:10 AM   
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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/27/2007 9:48:08 AM   
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Status: online 		I was hoping to see it in the preview....It'll be interesting to see what it does........I'll bid atleast 2$!

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/27/2007 10:12:45 AM   
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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/27/2007 1:20:37 PM   
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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/31/2007 3:46:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Blade, I just looked at the preview from the auction site and I didn’t see the bottle on there. Did I just miss it or is it not on there yet?

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RE: colored pontil medicine-cure - 12/31/2007 4:01:13 PM   
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