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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:10:28 PM   
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woops sorry again didnt mean to post on this Admin thread.
Please delete my posts here if not appropriate.

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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:14:12 PM   
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Well....the images are pretty good but some things can't be determined unless a bottle is in hand. 

The absence of seams could mean free-blown...or turn-molded - a more likely conclusion given the overall "look" of the bottle.  The base looks very reminescent of turn-mold bottle from the late 19th to early 20th centuries.  The images show the bottle as very symmetrical which is not typical of early free-blown bottles, but is typical of mid to late 19th century turn-molded bottles.

The lip or finish is not typical at all of an early (pre-1800) bottle and seems to be tooled, not applied.  Aqua is also a very unusual bottle color for anything prior to the mid to late 18th century...even early 19th.

A good source book for styles and trends of early (European) bottles is Van den Bossche's book "Antique Glass Bottles" which covers almost exclusively European bottles.  A quick scan through it showed nothing precisely like the pictured bottle, but some that are similar in shape (like a Burgundy wine shape more or less). 

Seals can feature all kinds of things in them...many dated seals were made well after the date in the seal (i.e., was a founding date of the users, or some other significant date).  Even if the heritage of the emblematic motif in the seal can be traced back to a very early time, it does not automatically follow that a bottle (or other item) with that motif is of the earlier age.

The features that I can see of this bottle - and absence of a pontil scar - strongly indicates a mid to late 19th century bottle...Bill

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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:20:45 PM   
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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:22:52 PM   
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I'll probably get additional grief for its new location (connected with....archaeologists).


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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:25:37 PM   
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Gunth, not really the lumberjack type. I had to shrink that crown quite a bit to fit on that dainty little head...

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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:27:55 PM   
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I keep forgetting you where an archey ologist in your hippy days.

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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:36:31 PM   
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I keep forgetting you where an archey ologist in your hippy days.


Actually, my friend, it was a bit later than that... First I dug bottles (while majoring in English)... Then I became a chef... Then I became an archeologist and gave away my bottles... Then I went back to cooking... Then I started collecting bottles again... Now...??? I'm semi-retired, I guess...


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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:40:25 PM   
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Sounds like an interesting life, Ron!  I found that majoring in English was not that useful, but interesting nonetheless.  I considered archaeology, but the math part kind of turned me off lol.  And a chef too?  How did you find the time to do all of that? 

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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:42:53 PM   
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A well rounded life BigBear, unlike mine which loops endlessly in rut formation. i hope they pentioned you off, the dirty so and so's
Me? I'm semi-retarded, ask anyone 'round here....

Cheer up big man

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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:49:34 PM   
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I Major in privy digging,hopefully in a well rounded hole

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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 1/30/2008 3:55:45 PM   
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I need to dig a pit right now...

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RE: Historic Glass Bottle Identification & Information - 2/3/2008 4:53:53 PM   
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Millville Bottle Works Bottle 1888 Is this bottle a repo and what type of bottle is it? 




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