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I defy ya... - 3/14/2008 6:28:36 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3803 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline I defy you to find another one  I've been assured it's an ink. Not 100% convinced as of today. Embossed:: Fox Fultz & Webster---New York & Boston---Diamond Brand---Trade Mark.  3 1/4" high. Found a little info on Fox Fultz & Webster, not much else. It's a beauty fo sure...anyone ever seen another? Left the pic pretty large to show the detail...besides it's so damn pretty Rich. Attachment (1) _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe Post #: 1

RE: I defy ya... - 3/14/2008 6:49:17 PM    JOETHECROW   Posts: 393 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. Status: offline cool bottle....love the graphics (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 2

RE: I defy ya... - 3/14/2008 8:39:40 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1747 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: offline oh ya, one of those?  Dug 350 of em in a 1950's out house pit... put em in my grandmas church sale, 5 for a buck! Seriously, very cool bottle...  looks like a polish of some type though? _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 3

RE: I defy ya... - 3/14/2008 9:07:10 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5159 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online quote: Fox Fultz & Webster---New York & Boston They were a big maker of medical and pharmaceutical products and supplies around the end of the 19th century. There is quite a bit of info out there on them. here is a little history of the firm ... http://books.google.com/books?id=N4N9bsxc2LYC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=w+fox+fultz+webster+new+york&source=web&ots=9fQLjWdkVo&sig=VPWilHSF-7yhVOwE7tpT7XEejO4&hl=en < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 3/14/2008 9:11:35 PM > _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 4

RE: I defy ya... - 3/14/2008 9:21:40 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5159 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online http://www.1001inkbottles.com/ProdDesc.asp?cat=&id=lb7518 This indicates it is an ink. Not proof positive but its possible. The company made all types of stuff, even nursers. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 5

RE: I defy ya... - 3/14/2008 10:22:23 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3803 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline quote: This indicates it is an ink. Shhhhhhhhh that's where i got it Gunth, keep it under your hat. Cleaned up nicely, right.... _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 6

RE: I defy ya... - 3/14/2008 10:55:13 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5159 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online quote: Cleaned up nicely, right Sure did. So you think its an ink? _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 7

RE: I defy ya... - 3/14/2008 11:04:28 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3803 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline quote: So you think its an ink? I'd like to think so Gunth. it would be a rare one if it is. I mean the - Diamond Brand - Trade Mark - screams ink but i'm  not so sure. Would Fox bla bla bla, have bottles made to sell Diamond ink? I've had that page saved in my favorites so long i forgot it was there, couple years at least. While cleaning things out i found it again and said to myself....self just do it. It arrived from France today _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 8

RE: I defy ya... - 3/15/2008 12:48:01 AM    capsoda Posts: 7917 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline It screams stove blacking. I have seen other stove blaking bottles that were very ornate. The salesman carried fancy bottles of stove blacking along with a miniture stove to show how good it works. My favorite aunt had a couple of miniture stoves and a dozen or so really fancy stove blacking bottles. Some were shaped like pot bellied stoves, kinda like yours. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 9

RE: I defy ya... - 3/15/2008 12:50:52 AM    capsoda Posts: 7917 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Also the salesman would leave the fancy bottle with the customer if they bought the right amount of blacking and there was a Diamond Brand stove. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 10

RE: I defy ya... - 3/15/2008 9:38:04 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5159 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online If you look at some of the docs about the company they show one of thier main products was the Diamond ointment block. http://books.google.com/books?id=Vc8AAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA77&lpg=RA1-PA77&dq=Fox+Fultz+%26+Webster&source=web&ots=sK65ztpsod&sig=sqE31jbwzM0UzUO2wRzogDmQfKU&hl=en That bottle may have been used with that product in some way. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 11

RE: I defy ya... - 3/15/2008 12:37:30 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3803 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline   Thank you Gunth, I could read that stuff all day (literally), I love the ads. Which page is the Diamond Ointment Block on? Making me dizzy. Cappy it might be a sample blacking bottle. The opening is a bit narrow for even the smallest applicator though. Later I'll provide an additional clue that I cheerfully omitted as to the bottles contents. You know i have to make a game of everything   It's nothing definitive and doesn't really preclude it from the ink bottle category. Very interesting though. Lobes. PS....is the site running sloooow today or is my hard drive so loaded down with porn and images of bottles I can't afford that nothing will load? R. Attachment (1) < Message edited by lobeycat -- 3/15/2008 12:41:21 PM > _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 12

RE: I defy ya... - 3/15/2008 1:44:16 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5159 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online quote: Which page is the Diamond Ointment Block on? Page 77 its says, should be the one I bookmarked in the link. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 13

RE: I defy ya... - 3/15/2008 10:29:45 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3803 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Fill Bottle To This Line Attachment (1) _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 14

RE: I defy ya... - 3/15/2008 10:40:55 PM    tigue710 Posts: 1747 Joined: 7/11/2007 From: connecticut Status: offline ahh... so it was likely  meant to be filled by the consumer, and reused...  I bet Matt is on to something with that ointment block... _____________________________ aint no bottles in there.... (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 15

RE: I defy ya... - 3/16/2008 2:55:01 AM    lobeycat Posts: 3803 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline old Foxy had a 1001 products so it may never be known _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe (in reply to tigue710) Post #: 16

RE: I defy ya... - 3/17/2008 9:38:31 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3803 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline Thank you Gunth! Finally got around to reading some of that material in your links. I'm assuming I can safely date this bottle 1890-97? What do you make of the Fill Bottle to Line, line?  Personally I've only seen them on battery jugs, which we can rule out here. Lobes. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 17

RE: I defy ya... - 3/17/2008 9:47:09 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5159 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online I think I have another similar small bottle with that fill-to line. I seem to remember seeing something like that with an inhaler kit. Seems like it must date in that time frame since the names changed later. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 3/17/2008 9:48:05 PM > _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 18

RE: I defy ya... - 3/17/2008 9:55:55 PM    lexdigger   Posts: 929 Joined: 5/31/2005 From: Lexington, Ky. Status: offline The "fill to this line" embossing means that it's an atomizer. If you filled it past that line it wouldn't work right. It could have been used for perfume, medicine, or anything else that was meant to be sprayed in a mist. I've got one similar to it that actually says the word atomizer on it. I'll dig it out and post a pic when I can find it. Chris (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 19

RE: I defy ya... - 3/17/2008 10:30:29 PM    lexdigger   Posts: 929 Joined: 5/31/2005 From: Lexington, Ky. Status: offline Here's a look at the base of mine. It says Century Atomizers. Attachment (1) (in reply to lexdigger) Post #: 20

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