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RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/13/2008 3:07:08 AM    texasdigger Posts: 262 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline downeast thanks a bunch.   I like the cinci flask a lot as well.  It was very neat to see come out of the ground.  Paddla I bought the Kennedy's off of the bay for a very fair price.  It is cruder than any pontiled bottle I have owned.  Crazy amounts of whittle, potstones, black trash in the glass, creases, bubbles and a gnarly top.  I will post some better pics tomorrow when I get some better light. I have not seen any of the other Lion bottles, but I belive this has to be one of the earlier variants.  The Lion Brewery was opened in 1882 so this bottle can't be too far off of that date.  Have you ever witnessed any of them sale?  I would love to know the realtive value of this bottles as well. As for any of the bottles I posted if anyone has any info. on them please speak up.  I love to learn. -B Attachment (1) < Message edited by texasdigger -- 4/13/2008 3:15:49 AM > (in reply to dollarbill) Post #: 21

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/13/2008 7:21:38 AM    idigjars Posts: 1340 Joined: 12/24/2004 From: Michigan Status: offline Brad, great looking bottles and display cab full.  Congrats on your new bottles.  Paul (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 22

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/13/2008 4:13:36 PM    Lordbud   Posts: 267 Joined: 6/16/2005 From: San Jose Status: offline That is a nice sampling of local druggists, those type are among the favorites in my collection. Even after all these years a previously unknown local druggist  is often discovered either in an old collection, or by some lucky digger who hits the right hole or local dump. Seems every city block could support their own drugstore back in those days. (in reply to dollarbill) Post #: 23

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/14/2008 2:56:55 PM    L C   Posts: 1584 Joined: 3/17/2007 From: Ohio Status: offline Hello texasdigger, you are right about the Lion Brewery, its a great beer from Cincinnati, has fantastic embossing. I sold one of these about six years ago at a antique show for forty dollars, is it a better or lesser bottle than that I can not say. I sold it, but have never seen another of them sold by anyone else. I do not know what one would bring at a bottle show, being I have only been to one, and that was in the 1970s. The one I sold was a bit newer than yours and the one I am posting, it had the later blob top on it. The Cincinnati Flask is a nice piece of glass too , at least so in my opinion. I am not famalier with the name at all, and can not give you any insight into its value at all. It could be a pretty decent bottle as for price as well. Best I can do for you. Hope this helped you some, Lou Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 24

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/14/2008 3:06:06 PM    L C   Posts: 1584 Joined: 3/17/2007 From: Ohio Status: offline I am following up with two postings of two Cincinnati Beers I have that I have never been able to find out any info as for age or price, If anyone knows, I would appreciate an answer. I believe they are both from the 1870s, but I could be wrong. This one is embossed B. Lager Beer Cincinnati, embossed rooster on the shoulder. Attachment (1) (in reply to L C) Post #: 25

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/14/2008 3:09:23 PM    L C   Posts: 1584 Joined: 3/17/2007 From: Ohio Status: offline And this one is embossed Jos. Neihause & Co., Cincinnati, O. . Three piece mold, 11 1/2" tall - Cinningham & Ishman glass mark on the bottom. I really like these two beer pertaining to Cincy as well. Attachment (1) < Message edited by L C -- 4/15/2008 3:08:22 AM > (in reply to L C) Post #: 26

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/14/2008 3:54:33 PM    texasdigger Posts: 262 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline Hey LC thanks for the info.  I have searched high and low for where one of these has sold, but have not found one.  I belive you are right that mine is bit older, but the lion in the amber bottle you posted is much bolder.  The one I have is very very crude.  I will post some better pictures of the blob when I get a chance.  The color is also quite nice.  It is more of a honey amber than straight amber.  The dump that is producing this stuff is very old by most Texas dumps 1880-1900.  It is fairly large, and we are the first to ever dig in it.  Water has been a constant issue because it is in a swampy area, but things are begining to dry up.  There has been only one dry day to dig in it, and 70 keeper bottles came home.   Hundreds were dug that day.  There is not a lot of sickeness in the bottles, and most of them are whole.  Even the really large bottles.  A count thus far we have dug 4 hutches, 10 drug stores including a indian territory, 5 bitters and 5-10 patent meds.  When we really get to dig it will be a bonanza of bottles.  I will keep everyone posted on our finds. -B (in reply to L C) Post #: 27

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 2:12:44 AM    dollarbill Posts: 1459 Joined: 5/6/2005 From: maysville, kentucky Status: offline Hey texasdigger Like  I was saying I 've dug several of the lions beers in aqua and amber blob and crown top  that did not have the lions head or the brewers name . Went out Sunday after posting to you and dug a whole one.Thought that was pretty cool .I'd say LC is real close on price to .Maybe a bit more as that would be inline with other  rarer beer of that age from cincinnati from what I can find. Heres a pic of the embossing Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 28

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 2:26:04 AM    dollarbill Posts: 1459 Joined: 5/6/2005 From: maysville, kentucky Status: offline Another pic  so you can see its a blob top .Its has SB@G CO. on the bottom .I belive its 1890s as have been most the bottle that have come out around it .I really like the one you and LC have as this one is rather plain in compairason but was glad to get it . There were 100s of brewers in Cincinnati in the 1800s from what I read .Lot of thirst men there killen and butchen all those hogs uh. bill Attachment (1) (in reply to dollarbill) Post #: 29

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 3:24:45 AM    L C   Posts: 1584 Joined: 3/17/2007 From: Ohio Status: offline       From the sound of it Texasdigger, you have a great dig to look forward to with that dump, wish you the best with it. Maybe a lot of the stain will be only lime deposites and will clean up fairly easy. The too, if you find a motherload, you would be ahead of the game to build or purchase a Bottle tumbler for cleaning them !     By the way, your bottle display is fantastic, if you had a bit more light to light it up better, it would be a real killer !     The bottle bug took hold here in my town around 1969. Three or four guys pretty well dug up everything in site by the time I got out of the service. Wish I had a dump like that to dig here. Bill, I have one of those somewhere out in the garage, no lion, but still a decent bottle. I believe I may have one of them in aqua as well. Hopefully you will find you one with the lion embossed on it in the near future. < Message edited by L C -- 4/15/2008 3:28:46 AM > (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 30

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 9:23:42 AM    texasdigger Posts: 262 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline I have been digging a lot of my life, but finding dumps older than 1900 has been very tough.  We always were digging in lage towns, and in dumps that had been dug in before.  We started going to small Texas towns, and looking for thier dumps.  That has been a ton more succesful, and most of the dumps we have found have not been dug up.  I have posted this pic before, but here is another good bottle that came from this dump. -B Attachment (1) (in reply to L C) Post #: 31

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 9:25:52 AM    texasdigger Posts: 262 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline This one as well Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 32

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 10:32:59 AM    appliedlips Posts: 1705 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline      Great,new additions Texas and congratulations on an awesome collection.That dump looks like it could be a great one,good luck.     Yours and L.C.'s Lion breweries are  good ones and would sell for around $50-$60.      L.C. That B.Lager beer is a good one.I have only seen one other and it wasn't for sale.The Ohio book say's $100-$125,I would think $150-$175 is more like it.You are right,this and the Niehaus date to the 70's judging by the manufacturing marks that show up on these type beers.Cincy seems to have alot of those cool 4-pc. mold bottles in the the transition period between "ale" type bottles and true blob beers.The Neihaus is probably a $30 bottle.I have seen a few of those and sold a couple for somewhere around that.Do you have any Cincy ale bottles?I would love to see them if you do. _____________________________ I WOULD LIKE TO BUY OR TRADE FOR YOUR COLORED,AND OR EMBOSSED CATHEDRAL PEPPERSAUCE BOTTLES.I AM ALSO LOOKING FOR EMBOSSED MIDWESTERN ALES IN ANY COLOR. (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 33

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 11:03:02 AM    L C   Posts: 1584 Joined: 3/17/2007 From: Ohio Status: offline      Hello Doug, thanks much for the info. I have never seen another of the Neihaus or the B. Lagers before, I guess that what not getting out to shows do for you. I am surprised the Neihaus was a not a better bottle than that though. It does not matter all that much though, I like it really well, being it is a three piece mold, as well as it is the only three piece mold beer bottle I have seen,and do not plan to ever sell it. I really like the Cincinnati bottles and pretty much focus only on bottles from that city. I do not know why, I live forty five miles east of there. I basically collect only the sodas , beers, and whiskeys from there, although I will hang onto others from various other areas of Ohio and other states that catch my eye. As for the Bitters, Cures, Remedies, Flasks, Pontiled bottles and so on, I collect them regardless of where they are from.       As for the ale bottles from Cincy, I have never came across any of them before, wish I had some to show you. If or when you have the time , post some of the ones you have, I would like to ssee some of them. Thanks again for the info on the beers, it is much appreciated, Lou < Message edited by L C -- 4/15/2008 11:29:59 AM > (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 34

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 12:19:18 PM    dollarbill Posts: 1459 Joined: 5/6/2005 From: maysville, kentucky Status: offline Hey texasdigger that display is sweet .Is that some type of old dish hutch . Look like some very nice glass in there too would'nt mind seeing a few more pics. Got any inks to show us, just my personal favorite. . Hey LC  thanks for the well wish and I would love to see your Cincinnati beer and soda  collections  too. The dump I've been diggen has produced quite a few Beers from Ohio, Kentucky and one P.A.I think Iam at about 10 diffrent one and theres been at least a half dozen or so more that I don't have that were broken . Good luck diggen to you all and hope that dunp gives up the mother load for ya texasdigger .               bill (in reply to L C) Post #: 35

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 6:07:01 PM    appliedlips Posts: 1705 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline      Lou,     I could be wrong on the Niehaus bottle but I remember selling two for around that at the Mansfield show 2 yrs. ago.I got my pricing advice from a digger from down that way that knows his stuff.If I remember correctly,there is a soda type bottle embossed CAPT. NIEHAUS and a blackglass ale bottle embossed JN on the shoulder which was his bottle.I had a true blob of his or his son's in yellow olive I regret parting with.You seem to have some excellent Cincy stuff.I love seeing it,we don't find too much of it up this way.I like ales but only have a Boss& Co. from Cincy.There are some beautiful ones from there,however. _____________________________ I WOULD LIKE TO BUY OR TRADE FOR YOUR COLORED,AND OR EMBOSSED CATHEDRAL PEPPERSAUCE BOTTLES.I AM ALSO LOOKING FOR EMBOSSED MIDWESTERN ALES IN ANY COLOR. (in reply to L C) Post #: 36

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 7:21:12 PM    texasdigger Posts: 262 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline I am really enjoying all the info in this thread.  We dug another bottle out of this dump that is a Cinci bottle as well, but it did not come home with me in the picks.  It is shaped just like a Duffys malt whiskey, but it is a Rosenthall Apple Cider.  We have also dug the Rosenthall flask that I showed a pic of in this thread.  It is a awesome bottle, and I may try to trade for it so that I can have both of the Rosenthalls from this dump.    The Kahn flask is just stunning because of the strange shape.  I have never seen a flask shaped like that one.  We will be digging on saturday so maybe I will have some killer new stuff to show you guys. -B Attachment (1) (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 37

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 7:26:01 PM    texasdigger Posts: 262 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline Dollar it is a china hutch that I converted.  I do have a few inks, but nothing really impressive.  Two weeks ago I sold my favorite ink.  IT was a S.O. Dunbar pontiled master ink.  I miss it already! Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 38

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 7:47:14 PM    Doctor McMunn   Posts: 20 Joined: 12/21/2007 From: Texas Status: offline Great collection there Texasdigger !  Keep at it and you'll end up with the best collection of Texas pharmacies around - not something you can build off Ebay easily either.  What's with all the Cincinnati bottles coming out of a Texas dump - evidence of an immigration pattern ? _____________________________ Opium for The Masses (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 39

RE: Lots of new goodies! - 4/15/2008 10:04:20 PM    L C   Posts: 1584 Joined: 3/17/2007 From: Ohio Status: offline I would say you are probably right about the Neihause Doug, you never know about prices when it come to bottles, what a person thinks sometime is realy good, ends up being medeocre, and one you might think common can be a killer ! I have heard of the Capt. Niehause, but have never seen one. maybe will come onto one in the future. I have a few decent bottles from Cincy, I dug most of them in the seventies. If I hadn't messed my blasted back up in the late seventies, I might have had a fantastic collection or at least a good one. Thats the breaks though. I believe the Rosenthall Apple Cider could be a good one  Doug, I have never seen or heard of one of those. There is a Rosenthall Whiskey from Cincy, beautifully embossed whiskey. I haven't seen one in years. I wanted to buy the one I saw, but other things were needed more at the time. What the devil was I thinking about,,, something more important !! I am adding a link below to a site I started to build months ago, and have never got off my can and got serious about getting all my bottles put on there. There are some of them if you would like to check them out. Some of the pics dissappeared for some reason, can not expect a lot for a freeby though ! http://www.freewebs.com/yesterdaystreasures/index.htm (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 40

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