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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 7:14:37 AM   
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She was kind of annoying to me. She kept asking how much everything was worth! That guy had some nice digging equipment though. And what looked to be a nice collection!

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 12:22:48 PM   
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Is that the show where the chick was kinda cute? Is it the same one where she goes meteor hunting? I thought it was ok, and wouldn't cause too much harm for the hobby, but if it became a series, then we'd be screwed ! "THis week on Privy Survivor Challenge"

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 12:37:01 PM   
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She was a happy lady.........


I think that book he made for her was about the bottles and the history of the hole which includes the useage. We do that sometimes if requested, or if its screamin old. That right there made us look good.

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 9:31:39 PM   
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It was a very good show and very fascinating. She has to ask "how much is it worth" in every episode because the show is called Cash and Treasures. It shows people what we go through to get bottles that, much of the time, are not worth the gas money to the site but we still dig on for that next great find. That tumbling machine was ridiculous! I want ground penetrating radar!

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 9:37:54 PM   
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    I didn't get a chance to see it yet but still agree that no show is a good show.Lou seems like a very knowledgeable digger and I am glad they weren't  throwing $ around again.The show was still called cash and treasure though,right.As far as the equipment,go for it!I had thought of ground penetrating radar for a while and still think I will make the leap at some point.In the best digging cities in the midwest most of the stuff left is paved over.I am sure the California guys see more of this than anyone.Who wouldn't use a backhoe if they had one sitting around?Good for him but TV still sucks.

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 9:42:14 PM   
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You are right George thats what the show is about TREASURE, but like downeast said if they made a weekly series we would be in deep chit and not the kind we like  There would be better bottles dug with higher price tags the word would get out and we would be HISTORY.

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 9:50:21 PM   
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ya I don't think there's much good on tv but when I see some antique bottles and a hot chick digging them it's all good

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 9:59:06 PM   
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I'll try to address all comments but if I miss something here let me know and I'd be happy to address it.

I think folks who don't know got a reality check on digging for bottles which I believe benefited our digging hobby. It's not about  money for many of us like the last show seemed to portray. The show was going to feature a bottle dig whether I did it or not and they may of got someone else who may of inflicted some sever damage to our hobby. I didn't volunteer to do this and even declined the fist time they asked partially because I like keeping a low profile. After giving it lots of thought I agreed to do it the second time they asked but only if it were on my terms which didn't set to well with the producer at first.
Let's face it the show is about just what the name says it is and they like bringing that point out, it makes people more interested. Part of my deal with them was that they would repeat the: "What's it worth" question  and almost every time they did I tried to evaded it.

The concrete saw was something I never use and rarely I use the backhoe, it was only there to expedite the process for the production company. It was a slow dig because we had to re-do many scenes and wait for shots to be set-up. It was not my normal mode of operation.

I think the next time I knock on someones door who saw this show, they'll likely say something to the effect of: "Go right ahead, we think your nuts to go though that much effort for so little value in bottles" and maybe I am.

I've dug privies for almost 40 years and can tell you that research  and documentation play a major role in it for me. It's not about just the bottles but a passion for California history and being able to preserve a part of it. Often I'm asked to do the reports and sometimes I'll offer to do one even if I'm not asked. It helps put what your doing into perspective  while at the same time makes a record of the site and what you've done, all good stuff.

There was no money involved in the TV show either for me or the property owner. After being the construction business for decades I know what to do and
how to make a job run as smooth as silk just as that dig went.

The bottle tumbler can hold up to about 80 bottles but usually I run 30-40.

I know my doing the show will likely inflame some people out there in our hobby
but I think the alternative may of not been good for any of us.

< Message edited by Leisalu -- 5/2/2008 12:59:20 AM >


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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 10:24:48 PM   
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You portrayed us in the best way possible...I wish you 100 years more of happy digging.

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 10:26:51 PM   
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It's good to hear from you. I totally respect you for doing this. I did notice the difference from the bottle diggin episode last season. You show that history is important and value is not so much. haha $5 for that little ink with the stuff inside was a bit high but there's probably somebody out there that'll give you it and she was so excited! Nice collection by the way!

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 10:28:30 PM   
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Hey, that’s pretty cool you are a forum member. I think the show turned out great and it was better than the first one that ran last year even though it was only a half hour program. I can see where Rick is coming from but the producers were just trying to push the “value” aspect to make the show more interesting and get more viewers. I think that the more people who saw it the better. There have been sooooo many times when I have knocked on someone’s door and explained what I am doing and their first response is “we never had an outhouse on our property”. Hopefully now people will realize that there was a privy on their property at one time and then I can convince them to dig it.
One question though, was the scene where the TV host went to ask permission from the store owner staged or was that the first time she talked with the property owner?
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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 10:41:31 PM   
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Leisalu, I saw that you posted back in march to the thread “TV production company looking for real 'diggers'“. At the time people were skeptical of the production company. Is this the same company that had you do the show?

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/1/2008 11:03:42 PM   
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LEISALU: great we get to hear YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY! I still wish you could have told that ,people don't always have the equipment that was used for this show and  a digger does not always get a single bottle for all the hard work. I  did love each time a bottle was outlined in the dirt! I think you did a good job and WISH I COULD GO ON A DIG WITH YOU! MAYBE ALL THAT ARE ON THE BOTTLE FORUM? HA! THANK YOU FOR SOMETHING TO DEBATE ABOUT!

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/2/2008 1:49:28 AM   
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When Kirsten found that little clear ink in the beginning of the show she was really truly  excited. I didn't have the heart to tell her it was not worth anything while realizing 5 bucks was definitely pushing it. This gal in real life off camera is fun to be around and and has a great personality not to mention she's hot. We all went out for dinner and drinks together, it was a blast. Their were five of them  including the host and producer.

I thought one of the funniest parts of the show was when she asked the store owner for permission to dig, that was totally staged. The owners were wonderful people but I had arranged permission for the dig at least two months prior.  

I saw the post in March about the production company looking for diggers and think that was likely a scam or just some want-to-be with a video camera wanting to make a armature movie. The way this company went about finding someone to approach to do their show was interesting. They had a lady from their company actually research potential people for months by talking to bottle auction houses and collectors on the West Coast and for what ever reason settled on asking me. This production company was just great, very professional and all really nice down to earth people. They produce shows for the History Channel, Discovery Channel and National Geographic.

They filmed over 70 hours of tape between the two camera men over a three day period and condensed all of that into a 22 minute show without the ads. The producer told me that there was so much good material there that he wished the show could of been an hour long. I made many strong points about our hobby I wished they would of used but unfortunately they were cut. One of my favorites I said that didn't get used and I say this often is: "If you want to dig bottles, be prepared for a lot of hard work and disappointments" and that one couldn't be any more true. How discouraging that would of sounded to the viewers though I guess.

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/2/2008 5:56:11 AM   
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Yes it would have been very discouraging for the (non bottle diggers to hear) but the (True bottle diggers) knows whats up.Still they should have put your last statement in, maybe just a few home owners would have seen that we don't do it (just) for money.Nice collection of sodas by the way. Rick

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/2/2008 7:19:25 AM   
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In my part of Pennsyltucky the cable does not have the travel channel, anybody record those shows?

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/2/2008 8:39:21 AM   
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our DVD recorder went down two weeks ago, but I recorded it on VHS tape if you're interested cobaltbot..........    I live about 20 miles north of allentown, pa.

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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/2/2008 10:31:57 AM   
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I think the digging show on the Travel Channel was a plus for the digging community and Lou did a great job of showing bottle diggers, in general, in a positive light. The Travel Channel was going to do this show with or without Lou and I think that Lou agreed to do the show out of default. His dedication to the bottle collecting hobby and hard work in helping put on not one but two bottle shows a year is well known here in the west.
I often dig with Lou and the majority of the digs are in parking lots, under sidewalks etc. and all of the digs are with full permission from the property owners. Lou's motto when digging is to return the dig site to better condition than we found it. This sometime requires taking trash from the yard to the dumps, patching cracks in the owners parking lot etc. We even built a handicap ramp on a piece of  property that we dug so that people in wheelchairs could use the public building.
The point being if you take care of the property you are digging the easier it is to get that digging permission next door. A good and positve experience for the property owner is a must if you want to continue digging in the same area.
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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/3/2008 9:57:07 PM   
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I think you did a great job.  You made it look like so much trouble NO ONE will ever try it them selfs now!  All together she had about 150 dollars worth of bottles and you guys made it look so time consuming and technical plus only a 150 dollar pay off?  That will keep the treasure hunters at bay and the home owners in check. 

Just the other day when perusing a privy (thanks to the first show) I was told "no one just gives money away" along with a refusal...  If that guy had seen this show I think he would of said go ahead...

I gotta know though, what did you find before she got there that morning?


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RE: I just watched the privy digging show on the travel... - 5/5/2008 10:57:47 PM   
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Sorry I missed the show, will the travel chan. be re-showing it?

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