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RE: What should i do?? - 6/28/2008 12:44:52 AM    cobaltbot Posts: 1601 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline You should probably know by now how it affects you.  If you dug there not knowing it was poison ivy and didn't get it you probably wont.  You should wash your own clothes so someone who is susceptible doesn't get it from them or wear a tyvek suit and throw it away as someone suggested.  I used to sit in it as a kid and never get it but as an adult? I get it a little, with this year being my worst case.  Like Matt said you can get it from the dead plant as well and I've even heard from vines dead for five years.  Jewellweed normally grows near poison ivy and is a good nuetralizer if you suspect you've been into it but is even better as a preventive measure.  You just crush the leaves or juicy stem and smear it on.  One of the best things you can do if you cant avoid the stuff is wash off within a half hour from a nearby water source, i.e. stream.  If you are real allergic to it like Mad and Cap said wait till winter, then get a hoe and scrape the whole area you plan on digging.  Youll still have to watch out for the roots.  Like Lord bud said poison "oak" really ONLY grows in California, but farmers and other old timers have been calling certain forms of poison ivy - poison oak for so long you're wasting your breath telling them they're wrong.  Half of them think virginia creeper is also poison which it's not.  You also gotta watch for young box-elder maple trees as they resemble poison.  _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 21

RE: What should i do?? - 6/28/2008 3:29:47 AM    cordilleran   Posts: 135 Joined: 2/13/2008 From: Walla Walla, Washington Status: offline Prednisone is a serious drug and one not to be taken lightly. I am currently taking pred-forte (prednisolone) eye drops every hour to treat a recurrent condition (uveitis). I have developed serious cataracts in both eyes because of the drug. Prednisone is a corticosteroid anti-inflammatory drug that in low doses, over the short-term, will have no marked side effects. When taken orally, especially in milligram doses over 20 mg to 80 mg per day, a person will experience noticable side effects. Prednisone in higher doses is a neurotoxin. Symptoms include weight gain in all the wrong places, high blood pressure, toxic psychosis, lethargy, weakness, hemiplegia (in my case) depression, myoclonus (involuntary muscular contractions, both rhythmic and arhythmic) loss of visual acuity, hearing disorders (tinnitus) et al. Some of these resultant physiological side effects are permanent. Prednisone is intended for short-term therapy for the most severe chronic auto-immune disorders. I speak with authority as I have ankylosing spondelytis and have suffered more from the oral prednisone side effects than with the disease itself. Never, NEVER will I take oral prednisone again. I will suffer with the chronic spinal pain which awakens me after and hour or two of sleep throughout the night. Did I mention severe sleep apnea? The prednisone also caused a thickening of my pharnyx resulting in same. As for topical applications of prednisone, there is little harm of toxic systemic overload. But again, application of corticosteroid ointments are only effective AFTER initial contact with poison ivy/poison oak. Prednisone topically is not a preventative nostrum that will somehow magically avert initial irritant contamination. I hope this answers your question. _____________________________ "The hammer and sickle is a swastika in drag." (in reply to Penn Digger) Post #: 22

RE: What should i do?? - 6/28/2008 8:32:39 AM    Mattkoz Posts: 127 Joined: 5/29/2007 Status: offline Well, i,v been digging there for a while now, and i'm not really sure if i'm allergic to it. I dont think i ever got it before.I've never been ichy after i dug there before. I'll probably go when the poison ivy dies jst to be sure i wont get it. (in reply to cordilleran) Post #: 23

RE: What should i do?? - 6/28/2008 1:44:56 PM    zanes_antiques Posts: 2020 Joined: 9/3/2006 From: Steubenville, Ohio Status: offline Or..... You can just tell me where this hazardous site is and I can dig it for you. Rest assured I will dig naked so as not to pocket anything and split with you even up! _____________________________ I buy, sell, barter, and beg....Zane (in reply to Mattkoz) Post #: 24

RE: What should i do?? - 6/30/2008 12:06:42 PM    ncbred Posts: 109 Joined: 6/20/2008 Status: offline Never knew I was allergic to poison until 2 years ago and I'm 31.  All the times I've rolled around in the weeds and explored the woods growing up, I never got it until 2 years ago.  It is awful and tough to get rid of even with topical cream and antibiotics. I pinpointed where it was at because I knew the only two times I've been in that place I ended up with it.  Tip....It worked for me at least.  An old timer told me to scrub the infected area with a hot wet rag and then put Clorox on it.  It burned like hell but dried it up a whole lot quicker than the first time. (in reply to zanes_antiques) Post #: 25

RE: What should i do?? - 6/30/2008 1:28:17 PM    bathysiderodrome   Posts: 28 Joined: 8/28/2006 From: Texarkana Status: offline Well, for some, they are allergic to poison ivy straight away. For others, a certain number of exposures to it will begin  a  tendency to react. This means with each successive exposure, your immunity is broken down a little, but each individual is different when it comes to these things. (in reply to ncbred) Post #: 26

RE: What should i do?? - 6/30/2008 7:33:20 PM    NCdigger5 Posts: 506 Joined: 2/9/2008 Status: offline Be tough. Stick it out for the bottles. _____________________________ Dump after dump, privy after privy, diggin up treasure one bottle at a time. Ryan (in reply to bathysiderodrome) Post #: 27

RE: What should i do?? - 6/30/2008 8:37:29 PM    beendiggin Posts: 601 Joined: 6/30/2005 Status: offline I got permission once to dig a dump in my friends backyard, there were all kinds of weeds grown up, so I stated pulling at them with my rake...well they started coming up by the roots like a big carpet. I thought this is cool, so I shoved my arms under the roots and rolled the weeds up lickity split.  The bottles weren't anything to write home about , so I quit soon, but man did I notice this itch on my arms.You can guess what I was into...and my arms swelled up like Popeye after a spinach binge. I actually had to go to the hospital, it was so bad.  I got a scrip for some type of steroid, which helped, but it still has to run it's course for a few miserable weeks.  I've had poison ivy many times, mostly small cases, but it is awful.  You just keep spreading it to different parts of your body because that oil is so viscous, it keeps sticky for days and you can't figure out where it's gonna pop up next. The worst is between the fingers.. thats from the shoelaces.  My advice is don't get near that stuff unless you are well covered, and even then, try not to break or damage the plant or roots when you remove it.  The oil flows the most in Spring and Fall is my understanding.. think it over carefully.........and hope the bottles are worth it.  I usually look for another place to dig if I see a lot of ivy.....be smart, be careful.  My two cents worth. _____________________________ (in reply to NCdigger5) Post #: 28

RE: What should i do?? - 6/30/2008 10:40:14 PM    Oldtimer Posts: 712 Joined: 5/13/2004 From: Effingham NH. Where else? Status: offline It remains "active" for at least 5 years after it dies, it's the oil in the plant that causes the rash...just as Guntherhess said. Digging in winter means you'll have poison ivy in winter...and it will go right through most cloth, usually by mixing with sweat...I've had it so many times I can't possibly remember them all. If you mow it or burn it and breathe it, you could indeed die. If you think you have come into contact with it, get to a sink and SCRUB with dish detergent. It's whole purpose is to bind with and remove oils (grease), so it will bind with and remove the oil from the ivy..if you get it quick enough, chances are you'll reduce the reaction by 80%... Your best bet is to find another bottle dump. Chances are that if you did brave the stuff, you'll find 3 broken criers, and 45 Bakers Extracts anyways... _____________________________ STOP THE CAR !! I think I see a cellarhole !!! (in reply to beendiggin) Post #: 29

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 10:39:41 AM    Jules   Posts: 191 Joined: 9/16/2003 From: NE Pennsylvania Status: offline Just one important note! As Cordillerian said, Prednisone is a synthetic corticosteriod (Steroid!) and it is NOT not not an over-the-counter drug as someone else posted. If you want to really, permanently screw your body up, this is a good way to do it if this med isn't monitored closely. That is serious stuff, not to be messed with. If some of our younger readers....or heck, elder readers that don't normally take drugs...happened to read that, if you find some in someones medicine cabinet, or a friend has some left over, don't take it for poison ivy or a simple rash! That stuff be nasty and has some serious side effects, plus potential not so grand interreactions with other prescription drugs. On less of a rant...I'm very sensitive to poison ivy myself. I've found that treating it with rubbing alcohol (ouchies! yes, it stings) every few hours tends to dry it up faster and prevent spreading. Just make sure the cotton balls/gauze/qtips you use to apply it aren't anywhere kids or pets could get into the garbage can. I tend to 'flush' them just to be safe, <3 the pets. This has been your public service announcement for the day.... Best, ~Julie (in reply to Oldtimer) Post #: 30

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 11:42:37 AM    E   Posts: 162 Joined: 5/9/2008 Status: offline Protect yourself I was not kidding several posts ago:  If this dump is really worthwhile go to Home Depot or Lowes, buy some latex gloves, a pack of light paper (or tyvex) suits - hooded if you can find, safety goggles, and a pack of dust masks (all together should be well under $20 for several days worth of protection).  I have worked with a number of chemical irritants more potent than poison ivy and this level of protection has been adequate.  Add duct tape to the knees and elbows for extra durability.  Overglove latex gloves with cheap jersey gloves.  Throw mask/suit/lgloves away when you are done and scrub skin with soap and warm water.  Wash shovel/tools and leave them in direct sunlight for several hours prior to handling again (or do not handle again until putting gloves back on). (in reply to Jules) Post #: 31

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 12:03:27 PM    cc6pack   Posts: 509 Joined: 7/12/2003 From: Mableton, Ga. Status: online Winter in my opinion is worse than summer, as gunther said the roots still have the oil stored in them and it's concentrated. You don't know when you get into it and every place you touch you get. (in reply to E) Post #: 32

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 12:23:46 PM    ravinedigger   Posts: 13 Joined: 6/5/2008 Status: offline An old farmer's trick out here is to rub down with Apple Cider Vinegar after coming into contact with poison ivy.  -Rod (in reply to cc6pack) Post #: 33

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 12:23:52 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3593 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline I say burn it _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc86_Weoye0 ya never come back (in reply to cc6pack) Post #: 34

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 7:53:31 PM    capsoda Posts: 7703 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline This person have it bad. http://www.poison-ivy.org/rash/rash-26.htm _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 35

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 7:58:46 PM    lobeycat Posts: 3593 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline quote: This person have it bad. that'll tighten up the old rectum there cappy. I'd go grocery shopping or something just to see peoples expressions. "huh? what? oh that....don't know what it is, came on sudden like" _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc86_Weoye0 ya never come back (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 36

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 8:17:59 PM    RICKJJ59W Posts: 3322 Joined: 3/8/2007 From: Lehigh Valley US of A Status: offline Say what lobe? poison ivy of the rectum! Now thats a frightening thought. _____________________________ My Web Page.Lots of pix. Dig story's published in Antique Bottle & Glass Collector. New story added 9/08 www.19thcenturybottlediggers.com Digs in action. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitpirate/ (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 37

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 8:26:10 PM    lego110   Posts: 117 Joined: 3/16/2008 From: wilmington nc Status: offline i have a cousin who went hunting and got it all over his butt and other places i dont want to talk about. i guess he used it for toilet paper. (in reply to RICKJJ59W) Post #: 38

RE: What should i do?? - 7/1/2008 10:45:37 PM    CazDigger   Posts: 69 Joined: 6/26/2005 From: Central NY State Status: offline   Be careful, you could wind up like this guy! (in reply to lego110) Post #: 39

RE: What should i do?? - 7/2/2008 12:49:26 AM    capsoda Posts: 7703 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Could you imagine the erge to scratch that crap. Hey Lobe, How bout " Oh that, I got it from eating a tomato or pumping gas in my car, I can't remember which. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to CazDigger) Post #: 40

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