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RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/8/2008 9:34:27 AM    lobeycat Posts: 3800 Joined: 9/8/2003 From: RED SOX Nation Status: offline I have to agree with you Joel brother. Fits too perfectly not to be a match. I don't recall ever seeing a glazed jar with a tin lid but I've seen milkglass ones. I wouldn't hesitate selling them as a matched pair... Rich. _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8XDgVe2EU long lost recipe (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 21

RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/8/2008 9:40:10 AM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline I am not too sure when they started making milk glass but I know Paine of Burlington, VT had one that would date about 1880. This is from the 1850's era. The funny part was, a wealthy collector told me he would give me a couple thousand dollars for it if it were with the correct jar. I asked him if he ever saw the correct jar and he said, "No, I don't believe anyone has". Now I kinda lost the logic at that point and decided it wasn't that important what he thought anyway. I could always use a couple thousand $$, but certainly don't need it and I kinda like the jar, lid and the fact no one else can produce one. Win,Win, Win, for me. Plus, if I had a couple thousand extra, I know I would just buy glass with it, but nothing as unique as this. Thanks for your thoughts. Joel < Message edited by epgorge -- 7/8/2008 10:23:21 PM > _____________________________ (in reply to lobeycat) Post #: 22

RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/8/2008 9:49:19 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 5155 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: online I was just using the term 'milk glass' in a general sense to describe the white jar. I didnt look at it very close so that may be an incorrect term. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 23

RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/8/2008 10:42:16 AM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline I knew you knew the difference. I posted the difference more for those that don't. It is funny. The guy I was speaking about just called and we were discussing this jar again. He is adamant it is not the right jar and thinks it was a tin vessel it was on. I asked him how he knew that and he said because he had never seen a tin lid on anything but a tin. Go figure. He knows what he knows and doesn't know anymore and until he sees it he won't believe it. He is a great guy though. Just Vermont pigheaded like me. I left him tellling him kindly it was just something we'll agree, not to agree on. We have too much more in common to let it bother us. Matt, your top notch in my book. I have learned much from you and have pass it on as you would want. Joel _____________________________ (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 24

RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/8/2008 1:51:03 PM    zanes_antiques Posts: 2027 Joined: 9/3/2006 From: Steubenville, Ohio Status: offline Hey Joel, Maybe the lid had some type of paper or wax sealer that made it fit tightly. I'd say they go together. _____________________________ I buy, sell, barter, and beg....Zane (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 25

RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/8/2008 6:33:42 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Zane, I have been holding, looking, touching, and pondering all day about this issue. My daughter, who is 21 and has better eyes than I, said it had residue up inside the tin where it was bended to cover the lip of the jar. She was right. It was embedded with a substance of some sort. I scraped some out and I will tell you more later. I need to look at it under a microscope to see what it is made of, if I can tell. More later. _____________________________ (in reply to zanes_antiques) Post #: 26

RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/8/2008 6:53:45 PM    capsoda Posts: 7914 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online The lid had a waxed cord inside to make a seal. The cord wad coated with bee's wax. The cord fit snugly around the sloped top edge of the jar. The lid was held on with a paper seal around it and the jar. Haven't seen a Dr. Henry's but have seen many just like it. Great set Joel. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 27

RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/8/2008 10:10:06 PM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline Thanks Cappy, and thanks to all who chimed in on this. I had referenced lids and jars on Bill Lindseys sight  http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:KS4ovLUhJlYJ:www.sha.org/bottle/closures.htm+Sha+org+bottles+non-threaded+lids&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us It said there were few examples of gravity lids (without threads) because few survived. This one came out of an Attic so we were lucky. I sent the picture of the cap and jar to Bill. He wrote back and asked if he could use it in his pages. I agreed, in fact was tickled pink. I am not sure if it  has been entered yet, as Bill is on a fishing expedition to the NW territories with his son. I will check into the band with beeswax and see if I can emulate it somehow. I am pretty happy I have this in my collection. I want to see another one or, at least a living example of Dr. Henry's Electric Ointment. Oh, by the way, the guy who brought it to me for identification? He is buried in my back yard. What do you think the fair value of a sole example of an early American, listed, medicine (vet) would be? Who could I send this to for verification that this is truly the right jar and lid? Anyone? Thanks. Joel _____________________________ (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 28

RE: Dr Henry's Electric Ointment Cure - 7/9/2008 1:55:23 AM    epgorge Posts: 2422 Joined: 12/29/2006 Status: offline It would be nice if a piece of history was discovered here on this forum last night by you people. Few gravity tins ever made it this far. But logic tells me this is not the only Dr. Henry’s Electric Ointment Cure known. I am assuming an “Ointment Cure” jar had sold at auction or it wouldn’t be listed in Matt’s book. Matt, would you be able to track down where it sold so we may be able to clarify identity. I would find it hard to believe this is the only one in existence. It may be so, as the tin does deteriorate, but how do we explain the listing and knowledge that it was a “jar”? I see many clay-pot-jars around here with no tops and I have always wondered what kind of closure they would have had. Thanks again for all your assists in my revelation. Joel _____________________________ (in reply to epgorge) Post #: 29

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