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RE: RED CORNER DRUG STORE, SALEM OREGON - 7/22/2008 1:08:24 PM   
CALDIGR2

 

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Status: offline 		I haven't been up to WW for over 20 years and it was close to virginal when we were there. My concentration was on points, though, not bottles. No more arrowheads after the dams went in and the laws passed, but the bottle diggin' is still good, I guess. Our posse never rests, either. Nearly 50 yrs of steady plowing, and not trying to slow down. Age, though, is gettin' the better of us. 10 foot privies just take a little longer to finish is all, but we do get 'em done.

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RE: RED CORNER DRUG STORE, SALEM OREGON - 7/22/2008 7:32:17 PM   
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We're spoiled out here in the sticks. We've yet to dig a 10-foot-deep outhouse. With large lots and plenty of land, the average hole is five-feet- to six-feet deep. The only hole close to 10-feet-deep was an eight-footer. Thankfully, most of the pits here are in a sandy loam and easy to excavate. The prevailing logic, however, holds true. If the original pit digger encountered river cobble, the pit was shallower and vice-versa. As for digging privies, my first was in 1972, and somehow word got around through the 1970s, even though remote ghost town dumps served as the path of least resistance. Only a small number of folks have the gumption to tackle hard physical labor, especially when the heat is up. The pits in Walla Walla remain about 80-percent undisturbed so there are potentially enough pits in a relatively small area to keep us busy for a few years. Staying in shape is critical for folks digging pits; I hit the iron pile four times a week and dig the other one or two days. Of course for a little guy like me it's helpful to have a couple fellas on one's team that are a lean 260 pounds.

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RE: RED CORNER DRUG STORE, SALEM OREGON - 7/22/2008 9:59:00 PM   
CALDIGR2

 

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Yeah, I understand. Here, in Sacramento, the soil is also sandy loam and very easy to dig, but the privies sometimes run to 20', with most at least 8'. The big commercial pits in the core area are huge and deep. We sometimes use large backhoes to get at them because the overburden is often several feet before the pit starts. I have tried several times to post photos on this site, but to no avail. I do have many nice pics of digs, but nothing compared to my diggin' partner. Man, he films everything and keeps a binder full of them. I'm more into just diggin' the pit, not writing a book about it. We are running out of undug pits in the oldest areas, with only a few lots untapped. I suppose that we'll eventually have to start digging the 1890s and turn pits, something that I have religiously avoided, so far.

Like I said in an earlier post, we do have some permissions in Oregon to hit, if we can find the time and fuel to get up there. My buddy's relatives have lived there for several decades and have yet to see a digger. The place is dotted with 1870s and 80s houses, and many are vacant at this time. Good luck with your digging and keep an eye out for Hotaling whiskies.

Mike

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RE: RED CORNER DRUG STORE, SALEM OREGON - 7/23/2008 2:22:43 AM   
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I've heard said that there is a major construction project slated for 2009 along the Sac City waterfront. If that's the case, earth movers will be exposing some terrain having gone untouched since the 1850s. What do you know about this given that's your stomping grounds? With a little advanced intellegence, it might be possible to secure a section of turf. 

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RE: RED CORNER DRUG STORE, SALEM OREGON - 7/23/2008 11:56:20 AM   
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Status: online 		Hey Mike,  I work on J street and am off every day at 3.  If you ever need someone to help you move dirt, give me a hollar.  I was emailing a collector named Mike from the area a few years ago.  Are you the same Mike?  "he" had a Vallejo hutch that he wanted to trade me for a Enterprise hutch, never did trade though.  Just wondering if that's you. 

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RE: RED CORNER DRUG STORE, SALEM OREGON - 7/23/2008 11:02:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not me, Wilkie, but it could have been Mike Henness.



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RE: RED CORNER DRUG STORE, SALEM OREGON - 7/23/2008 11:10:39 PM   
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Caldig:

I've heard said that there is a major construction project slated for 2009 along the Sac City waterfront. If that's the case, earth movers will be exposing some terrain having gone untouched since the 1850s. What do you know about this given that's your stomping grounds? With a little advanced intellegence, it might be possible to secure a section of turf.

Cord,

The project that you are referring to is the long awaited new Railroad Museum complex to be built on Front St between Q and T sts. It is a State project and will undoubtedly be absolutely crawling with slimy archies. I don't plan on stepping foot on the site, but you never know. Maybe there will be some room for a few bottle pillagers. The site we worked last year ticked them off badly, due to the property being privately owned and the owner disallowing any greedy archaeologists to access the job. Believe me, they tried to get in and have us tossed, but to no avail. I loved it!

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