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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 9:06:48 PM   
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Cool site. They realy are pretty thorough on discussing the difference. Your tumbled pieces don't look half bad either. You find so much broken stuff on the hunt for antique bottles that you throw out. I wonder if there is a legitimate market. Be honest with people - that is, tell them that you tumbled it - but use genuine antique glass shards?


Google tumbled glass and faux seaglass - it's available... Go to AC Moore or Michael's and see what they charge for it! You will be very surprised.

Charlie - I tumble it with sand that I steal from the local volleyball court in the park up the street. Sometimes I have rocks in too, but it doesn't really make much difference. (tried to make it cruder looking - didn't really happen) Check this picture out... the sand gets really powderlike after awhile and I put it in my milk bottles.. the other has some tumbled glass in it.




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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 9:17:37 PM   
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that's why I recommend small pebbles, rather than rocks or sand

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 9:56:16 PM   
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Actually, small pebbles (aka rocks) tend to get stuck in some of the stuff I tumble, so I prefer the (did I say free) sand.

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 10:01:07 PM   
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Psychodoodle - THANK you for the great link! That is a GREAT site, and shows exactly what I needed to know. I'm going down the beach tomorrow morning to see what is there. Learn something new every day

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 10:12:49 PM   
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Bram -
You're welcome! Thanks for getting my name right! Now when you find a couple of those blue or red pieces of tiny broken glass that most of us would never think twice about, you can stick them in an envelope and send them off to me! LOL

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 10:20:38 PM   
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Sure thing, I'll charge you a discount rate, how bout $10 a piece :)

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 10:20:41 PM   
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Just putting glass and rocks in a tumbler is not violent enough to get the real sea glass look. Real sea glass has lots of small pits, tiny dings, and is covered in small half moon shaped bruises. I did a lot of different experiments to see if I could make a plain aqua stopper look identical to sea glass and I accomplished that. With a lot of trial and error I finally came up with this:

I filled a bottle tumbling canister with small-medium sized rounded river rock, a little bit of sand, and a small handful of medium-large sized quartz crystals. The right amount of water is key. Too little and it was break the glass, too much and they wont bang around enough. Take a medium sized garbage can that will fit on your tumbler and stuff the tumbling canister in it vertically so you make your self an end-over-end tumbler. I ran it for a day on the slow speed and then took them out and ran them just with sand for about 45 mins or so. If you set my stopper beside a real sea glass one it would be hard to tell the difference. If you are going to try this and plan on selling the stuff, be honest and let the buyer know they are getting tumbled glass. Here is a sketch of the set-up:






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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 10:29:43 PM   
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Here's a common deco fruit/jam jar that I like the style of.
Found some red glass and have some nice colors in here. Sorry - bad light...

Bottleman - any advise on how to do this with a regular rock tumbler? I'll probably be experimenting with that!
Kate



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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/9/2009 10:51:54 PM   
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..this is a nice looking composition!!! You have the eye..

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/10/2009 6:48:11 AM   
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Collecting sea glass is what got me back into bottle digging.  Trust me, you can tell the difference between a sea glass marble and a regular one.  I've found about 5 different marbles so far and none of them are shiny like ones we might dig (oddly enough I still haven't dug one).  They all have that pitted frosted look, and most of them won't be completely round anymore, kind of lopsided.  If I didn't have to go to work in 15 minutes I'd post a pic of them all together, but here's one I found recently.





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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/10/2009 7:59:29 AM   
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Wow this thread has been a real eye-opener for me. I had no idea beach glass was that collectible. I just searched the completed beach glass listings on Ebay and there are a suspiciously large number of marbles, stoppers and colored lots being sold for big bucks, probably a lot of manufactured stuff being passed off as beach washed. I don't know if I believe that you can tell the difference between a piece of glass that was tumbled and one that was surf tumbled. Buyer beware!

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/10/2009 8:23:34 AM   
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DANG ALL I NEED IS THE SEA!WITH GLOBAL WARMING IT JUST MIGHT MAKE IT THIS FAR INLAND!{GEEZ,I HOPE NOT] I GOT A BUCKET OF DIFFERENT COLORED SHARDS I GOT FRON THE BOTTLE DUMP YEARS AGO SOMEWHERE IN THIS PACK RAT CLUTTERED HOUSE.I GOT EM TO TRY TO MAKE A SORT OF SMALL STAINED GLASS WINDOW. THE BUCKET OF SHARDS IS FAR AS I EVER GOT. WONDER WHERE THOSE SUCKERS ARE?WHEN I GO LOOKING FOR SOMEN I ALWAYS FIND SOMEN ELSE THAT HAD BEEN MISSING OR I FORGOT I EVEN HAD IT!IT IS JUST A LOT O DANG WORK! OH WELL,GREAT PICS THERE KATE!

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/10/2009 10:22:59 AM   
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Here is another cool sea glass site.There are some cool looking things made from sea glass.Check it out.
http://seaglasslovers.ning.com/

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/10/2009 2:51:28 PM   
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That's a cool site, Rick! Thanks.

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/10/2009 3:59:31 PM   
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I don't know if I believe that you can tell the difference between a piece of glass that was tumbled and one that was surf tumbled. Buyer beware!


Yes, it's actually quite easy to tell.  Tumbled glass is just that, tumbled.  Sea glass, on the other hand, gets a frosty look to it that's only created by the soda and lime leeching out of the glass and crystallizing again on the surface of the piece over a period of 50+ years, and that also varies by the PH of the water.  Which is why "sea" glass from the shores of Lake Ontario is vastly different from New England.  I'm sure several of the links posted mention that for some reason, small "C"S appear in sea glass over time, but not tumbled glass.  Tumbled glass is quite smooth in comparison.




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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/10/2009 4:04:41 PM   
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Here's a good site that shows the difference between tumbled glass and seaglass. There definitely a difference. (Crazy prices, though!)
http://seaglassassociation.org/GenuineVsArtificial.php



One of the guys behind this association came to our club's meeting a few months ago and showed us some seaglass.  It was by far the best "educational" seminar our club has had in years.  He even brought a piece of seaglass that he had paid around $900 for, which of course had the club members freaking out.  No of us are shocked when someone spends more money for a bottle than a new car cost, but $900 for a small piece of an old bottle and our eyes pop out of our heads. 

Anyway, I remember him being pretty confident in being able to tell the difference between tumbled seaglass and the real thing.  He even talked about people using sand and rocks in tumblers and he could still usually tell the difference. 

Personally, I don't know enough about bottles yet to worry about seaglass.........Although I might go to a beach and hunt for some.  It is a great way to decorate the common mason jars.

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/12/2009 7:31:41 PM   
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Hmmm, maybe I'll have to post a few pics of my sea glass...

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/12/2009 7:44:17 PM   
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Sand blasting can produce a sea glass look to marbles or any other kind of glass. I never knew people were collecting it.

And they think we are weird because we dig in dumps and old pooper holes.

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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/12/2009 10:17:44 PM   
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GLASS BEACH ON THE ISLAND OF KAUAI, HAWAII, THE WHOLE BEACH IS MADE UP OF SEA GLASS, A SEA GLASS COLLECTORS PARADISE.




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RE: Sea glass marbles ? Hmm... - 1/12/2009 10:25:01 PM   
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FORGOT TO ADD: GOOGLE MAP SEARCH, GLASS BEACH KAUAI, HAWAII, IT WILL SHOW YOU THE EXACT SPOT WHERE THE BEACH IS.

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